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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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[–] self@awful.systems 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

it took me sifting through an incredible amount of OpenAI SEO bullshit and breathless articles repeating their marketing, but this article links to and summarizes some of that discussion in its latter paragraphs

bonus: in the process of digging up the above, I found this other article that does a much better job tearing into sora than I did — mostly because sora isn’t interesting at all to me (the result looks awful when you, like, look at it) and the claims that it has any understanding of physics or an internal world model are plainly laughable

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

ah yes, this (BITM) was indeed one of my Opened Tabs and on my (extremely) long list of places to review for regular content

[–] self@awful.systems 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

same! which is why it’s maddening that I almost gave up on finding it — I had to reach back all the way to when sora was announced to find even this criticism, because all of the articles I could find since then have been mindless fluff. even the recent shit talking about how the OpenAI CEO froze when asked where they got the videos to train sora on are mostly just mid journalists slobbering about how nobody does gotcha questions like that anymore. not one bothered to link to any critical analyses of what sora is or what OpenAI does. and the whole time this article I couldn’t find via search was just sitting in my tabs.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

speaking of which deluge, I ran across this and plan to give it (or a derivation of it) a test ride this week: https://chitter.xyz/@faoluin/112100440986051887

[–] self@awful.systems 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

oh fuck yes, finally!

also wondering what it would take to make a Crank/Grifter/… X-Ray type browser plugin, which auto-highlighted and context-enriched all known names of grfiters, boosters, cranks, etc in displayed content

I’ve considered making something like this — kind of like a generalized masstagger but with a very specific mission

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 5 points 8 months ago

most of the reasons I haven't yet tried to look into it are:

  1. browsers
  2. javascript

they continue to be rapidly exhausting items to engage with, every time. but I guess a mildly-terrible PoC could be enough to opensource and then someone else could build off that to make it non-shit

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 3 points 8 months ago

also wondering what it would take to make a Crank/Grifter/.. X-Ray type browser plugin, which auto-highlighted and context-enriched all known names of grfiters, boosters, cranks, etc in displayed content

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 4 points 8 months ago

the result looks awful when you, like, look at it

See now, there's your problem, you're not supposed to.