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[–] gwildors_gill_slits@lemmy.ca 14 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It's important to note that the entire idea about Alpha males is based on a long-discredited theory that was itself based on flawed observations.

[–] abbenm@lemmy.ml 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

It wouldn't even matter if it was "right". The idea of looking to wolves for models of ideal human behavior is wrong for like 17 different reasons, even if it were technically true as a description of wolf behavior.

P.S. why do AlphaBros specifically look at wolves, or lobsters, to instruct us on social hierarchy? There are so many other animals, those seem pretty random choices. And pretty far afield from humans. Wouldn't you at least want something more proximate to us humans on the evolutionary tree? Heck, why not just use humans as a reference point?

[–] PBCrisps@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

P.S. why do AlphaBros specifically look at wolves, or lobsters, to instruct us on social hierarchy? There are so many other animals, those seem pretty random choices. And pretty far afield from humans.

Because other animal choices don't validate the rightwing ideology that places them at the top, which is their entire goal in the first place.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 7 points 7 months ago

Yes, and the man who proposed the theory retracted it later, saying it would be like basing human behavioural theory on observations made in a supermax prison.

That actually makes sense that these losers would venerate it, since the behaviours they idolise are very like what you’d see in prisons: machismo instead of real manhood, narcissism and subjugation instead of empathy, and hatred instead of compassion.