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[–] Sizzler -3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There are already food distribution networks so what are you blathering about?

[–] nac82@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

A huge portion of the goods that fills that distribution network is meat, ranches, and non vegan farms.

You purposefully left out a key word on your food distribution network claim (vegan) and are playing dumb as a coping mechanism against reality.

How are you going to replace all of that at scale before lunch?

[–] Nevoic@lemm.ee 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Are you unaware of how markets work? You're pretending like the person you're responding to is the arbiter of all food production and consumption. Buy vegan, more vegan food gets made. It's been happening for decades and as the number of vegans climb, the amount of vegan food increases.

There's really nothing difficult to understand about that. If SO MANY PEOPLE go vegan that you literally go to the store and can't find ANY vegan food (this won't happen), then vegan food production will ramp up extremely fast, and this will only be a temporary issue as producers acclimate to new demands.

[–] nac82@lemm.ee -1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

This doesn't change anything about the point I challenged.

As of today, a bacon sandwich is a need u till you handle the issues of supply and demand or culture shift over time.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

Nobody "needs" a bacon sandwich lol.

[–] Nevoic@lemm.ee -1 points 8 months ago

There's no world where every person goes vegan "before lunch" today, you were arguing about a fantasy because that's the only way you could make an almost coherent point.

In your fantasy world where literally every person wakes up, realizes that paying for animal abuse because of taste preference is a moral abomination, then yeah we wouldn't have enough vegan food easily accessible, but as all the vegan food would be perpetually out of stock, production would ramp up.

In reality however, people in the first world have incredibly easy and consistent access to vegan food. Essentially if you get your food from a grocery store you have incredibly easy access to cheap vegan food. If you live in a place where food is more scarce, then your diet is already primarily vegetarian or vegan because that food is way, way cheaper to come by.

[–] chetradley@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

An even greater portion is distributed as animal feed. In fact, 1/3 of crop production is fed to livestock at about a 10:1 calorie conversion. The land and resources exist, it's just a matter of people realizing that animal products aren't a necessity for much of the world. I also don't recall anyone saying this change would have to occur immediately, it would obviously be a gradual transition.

[–] Sizzler 1 points 8 months ago

All I'm hearing is you say, "unless we can do this in an instant it's not possible"

There's already a vegan food distribution network lol, part of the food distribution network. You seem hostile to the simple idea of change for a greater level of humanity. Why?

[–] occhineri@feddit.de -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

your food distribution network claim (vegan)

You do realise that this is your own claim, right? Nobody else is talking specifically about vegan food, lol

[–] nac82@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

Yes, it was my claim that he responded to and filtered a word from

Good job, ypu found out what I'm talking about 👏