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I'm trying out the miryoku layout. Let's see if I last more than 30 seconds.

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[–] Corr@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dvorak is kinda bad compared to other alt layouts. I think the original appeal was that it was built into windows. Or I just picked between colemak and Dvorak randomly lol. There's a lot of math that goes into developing alt layouts, and a lot of it is personal to your use case.

[–] lambchop@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is the first time hearing someone call it bad, do you have any links explaining why it's bad compared to others?

[–] Corr@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't have any links on hand. I could probably find some later. It's discussed on r/keyboard_layouts. Dvorak has a lot of SFB compared to newer alt layouts, and L on a pinky above S is kinda sus lol

I should add that Dvorak is still leagues better than qwerty

[–] markstos@urbanists.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@lambchop I wouldn't call the Miryoku layout bad. I think has some elegance and consistency to it, but I strongly prefer one shot modifiers, which Miryoku doesn't have room for. I created an alternate layout that includes a sixth column on each hand for rarely-used or optional keys. My "markstos" layout is also in the QMK repo for Corne keyboards. There are several other differences as well! I have a page about it here:

https://mark.stosberg.com/markstos-corne-3x5-1-keyboard-layout/

#keyboards #ergomechkeyboards

[–] Corr@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

The layout referred to above is Dvorak, not Miryoku. Thanks for sharing your OSM layout tho, I'll check it out. Always room to improve mine lol :p