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There are obviously a lot of people interested in debating me here, which is great, but getting downvoted to fuck just because people disagree with me completely disentivises me putting my opinion forward and I can't be bothered to partake anymore.
I'm not asking for upvotes, I just think it's bad to downvote for no other reason than "I disagree", it turns the website in to an echo chamber.
This place is becoming more like Reddit all the time, it's such a shame
You're not being downvoted because people disagree with you you're being downloaded because you don't understand how taxes work and when people explain it to you your arguing with them.
Your money will be worth more to you when you pay taxes than when you spend it on yourself. If only because it becomes part of a much bigger pot and then scales of economy start to take over.
Don't condescend me, I understand how taxes work.
In your opinion, how much should we be paying to have public services that actually do what they say on the tin. 40%, 50%, 60%? I think paying a third of our incomes is already a huge sacrifice and it's quite frankly embarrassing that our public services are in the state they are given the huge amounts of cash thrown at them.
A bird in hand, , ,
Yeah you don't know how taxes work. When you pay taxes for public services and then the money isn't actually spent on public services that isn't a failure of the tax system that's a failure of the government. You're angry about the wrong thing.
Again you're angry about the wrong thing. The fact that the current administration are not actually funding services correctly from the taxes that are already been paid to them is a problem with the government. Cutting taxes means there's even less money in the pot and they're not actually managing the pot correctly already. Getting the tax break doesn't make things better it just makes it worse.
All of this is already being explained to you and you still continue to insist you actually have a point.
Oh and by the way even if the conservatives win the next election by some weird fluke they would still have to raise taxes to undo the damage they've already done. It's not like this is sustainable because it isn't. All they doing is poisoning the well because they know they do not stand a snowballs chance in hell of actually winning. So now they've created a situation where the next government will have to raise taxes and then they have an attack line. And people like you are eating it up.
Ok, so let me know when my money's not going to be wasted, then I'll stop being so pesemistic about my tax contribution.
You truly believe that labour are going to fix this pile of shit? They're red Tories!
You should take a good hard look in the mirror next time you think about calling other people gullible.