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[–] n0m4n@lemmy.world 46 points 6 months ago (4 children)

The contrast of one of the greatest SOTU speeches in history to an utterly creepy call to gather a nut-fringe group to take over the Republican tent is a two piece diorama of what we are today. We are the UNITED States. I hope everyone spends some time thinking of what that means.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Any time a country has an adjective in its name that adjective is always wrong.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I think we can give Northern Ireland a pass though

[–] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

It's pronounced "Norn Ir'n", thanks. 🤘🏽

[–] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago (2 children)

/Great Britain has entered the chat

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You mean the United Kingdom? I always loved that name. Neither United nor a Kingdom. Regular attempts to secede and proudly an empire.

[–] havocpants@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

We have a king and are a union of 4 countries. What do you mean?

[–] Gabu@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

4? What, are you counting Wales?

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

It's mostly a joke but the reasoning is in the comment.

[–] havocpants@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The Great bit refers to it being the largest of the islands that make up the British Isles. GB is a land mass, not a country.

[–] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

It was in reference to an Eddie Izzard bit. Simmer, youngin.

[–] model_tar_gz@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

PEOPLE’s Republic of China

[–] KISSmyOS@feddit.de 1 points 6 months ago

Except for the Federal Republic of Germany. It's much too federal, actually.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

Wow, just watching that now. She needs to go back to her streaming channel and 500 viewers

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Greatest SOTU in history..? I mean, cmon.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

One of the greatest, but certainly not the greatest of all time. It seems apt for the moment we're in as a country.

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

I would respectfully disagree. The speechwriters crafted a fairly strong piece of rhetoric, but it wasn't particularly substantial and the delivery was substandard, that's just the honest truth.

Also "one of the greatest in history because it happened now" is not a great argument. Nunc pro tunc, as they say.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

I wouldn't say because it happened now, but because it fits the state of the country very well.

[–] astronaut_sloth@mander.xyz 1 points 6 months ago

Yeah, I agree. It was well-written, and I thought it was good, but saying this was the best SOTU of all time seems a bit far-fetched. Biden straight-up isn't a great orator, and that's fine by me. I would rather someone who can do the job than make wonderful speeches.

Now, how Biden dealt with the hecklers was pretty great, I'll say.

[–] PopcornTin@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

The greatest that ever will be, too!

We're deep in it here.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

It should be clear to everyone, now that we are not united and never have been and holding this country together is a bigger challenge than anyone these days realizes.