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[–] Synnr@sopuli.xyz 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Are you firm on the stance that it's only bigotry, and not, like, I dunno, motions wildly to the article a complex set of multidimensional issues?

What's the logical fallacy called when you misuse a logical fallacy?

E: "fallacy fallacy" or "argument from fallacy" (also known as: disproof by fallacy, argument to logic, fallacy fallacy, fallacist's fallacy, bad reasons fallacy [form of])

Description: Concluding that the truth value of an argument is false based on the fact that the argument contains a fallacy.

Good philosophy.stackexchange discussion about it.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Hey, if you want to believe it's just simple noble country folk that support Trump and not a bunch of fucking bigoted shitheels, that's your benefit of the doubt to give.

If you want to convince me, you'll need to do better than an op-ed in Store Brand Mad Magazine from someone who is airing his grievances that New Orleans got too much attention after Hurricane Katrina.

[–] Synnr@sopuli.xyz 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Are most of the people who voted for Trump bigoted shitheels? Possibly. Is everyone who voted for Trump in 2016 a bigoted worthless life? Absolutely not. Not even close. He campaigned on a multitude of issues, if you'll recall. And before that thought enters your head, no, I voted for Sanders in 16 and Biden in 20.

I know it helps to simplify things, but you can do better. Think outside of the Monkeysphere, or whatever you need to call it so you don't feel like you got the idea from Store Brand Mad Magazine.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Is everyone who voted for Trump in 2016 a bigoted worthless life?

Perhaps not, but January 6 left no doubt about the supporters who remained with him.

Lemmy: where everyone to the left of Biden must be a Russian Chinese Shill bot child, but let's give actual Trumpists the benefit of the doubt.

[–] Synnr@sopuli.xyz 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Perhaps not, but January 6 left no doubt about the supporters who remained with him.

I'm not sure about your associates, but about 1/8th of the people I know voted for Trump now claim to have not done so. They have so much shame and regret over it that they lie about ever doing it. Post-2019, most who were big Trump supporters aren't anymore. There are still a couple doucheknuckles who have firmly twisted themselves inside the asshole of the propaganda well, but they are the loud few.

For this at least, we can be thankful.

Lemmy: where everyone to the left of Biden must be a Russian Chinese Shill bot child, but let's give actual Trumpists the benefit of the doubt.

You and I have very different Lemmy subscriptions.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You and I have very different Lemmy subscriptions.

Or sufficiently different opinions that you never twig the "zomg russian!" types.

[–] Synnr@sopuli.xyz 0 points 8 months ago

And vice versa? I see them both, but Lemmy is more left leaning than reddit, although less political most of the time. Conversations are heating up now because it's election season in the US. Honest question: when you browse Lemmy do you typically read from your (lemmy.world) instance, or do you read from All instances, or do you have a curated list of subs from different instances? I try to stay off the political subs, and in fact the only reason I posted this article is because someone linked to a lemmy.world politics post and I ventured into the politics sub on lemmy.world and was struck by how fierce the left/right division was. Most of Lemmy doesn't seem to be like that, a comment here or there sure, but not constant like the politics sub.