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[–] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 60 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

Genuinely convinced that she’s only staying in the race because;

  • If Trump does (plzplzplz) get disqualified/jailed, she’s the Republican candidate with the ‘best’ chance
  • There’s hella liberal dark money and back room deals propping her up to split the “never Trump again” conservative vote
  • She’s grifting campaign funds via the classic loopholes after she loses the general

She’s pissed off Donnie and the MAGAs so a cabinet slot or ambassadorship is out - what’s her angle otherwise?

[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 20 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Being the lead Never Trumper is a great spot to be in if Trump loses again.

It's incredibly abnormal that Trump stayed powerful in the party after losing a presidential race. Historically, Republicans turn to the 2nd place candidate from 4 years before. Romney was 2nd place in 2008. McCain was 2nd in 2000.

[–] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Oooh good point, orient herself so if the RNC reorients away from Trump, she’s ‘ready and willing’ to lead - or a figurehead for the factional schism if they do decide to stick to the MAGA lunacy?

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Trump was a very abnormal president, in that he was openly racist and an absolutely shit person, instead of just being a racist shit person behind closed doors or through innuendo.

Apparently the republican base was just looking for a racist and all around horrible person, so trump has become a political lich. No matter how many times we defeat the dementia ridden fuck or the dipshits he promotes, the brainless base brings him back.

I'm just curious how long it will take the puppet masters of the republican party to either force through another candidate regardless of the base's wants, or just abandon the party and try to elevate a new party to replace them.

[–] hansl@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If she’s genuine, I could see her still believing that once Trump is out of the party for good that the republicans will go back to be regular conservatives and she’ll be welcomed in that party for 2028/32.

Personally I think the party is now too deep into MAGA to ever come back without some major restructuring.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 2 points 8 months ago

Yeah, no matter what, her staying front and center to the bitter end helps her in the inevitable* 2028 election.

(*) my usual caveat: inevitable IFF Trump fails to establish a Putin-esque perpetual dictatorship in the US.

[–] Orbituary@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

"loose" is for cannons and morals. "lose" is what she's probably going to do with respect to the Republican nomination.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

If you want to stay out of trouble, not getting a cabinet position in a trump administration is a good thing. Besides, it's not like she doesn't have other options, she can go back to telling Boeing they don't really need to use that many bolts to attach doors to planes.

[–] Conyak@lemmy.tf 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Is it dark money if it is trying to prevent a dictator from taking over?

[–] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

Is it bad if we subvert democracy to save ‘democracy’?

Yes.

Citizens United is a train wreck, and “playing the game to change the system” gives the practice legitimacy and signals this practice is accepted by the party leadership. “Money as Speech” is a terrible concept, hiding the sources and distribution of that money from scrutiny or audit is a horrible practice

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 8 months ago

It’s black hat or at least dark gray hat method of fighting for a candidate from the opposite party. Why note spend it convincing the young Dems who claim to not want Biden, how not voting will fucking them.