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Varies heavily dependent on industry, but typically less than US devs. Also if you live outside London it's going to be a lot less.
You average non-junior dev will probably make about 50-60k £ in london but about 25-35k £ outside london.
Senior developer can vary heavily. in london I've seen 60-120k depending on language and industry.
Wait so it's possible a Senior Dev outside of London would make $35k??
I'm a senior in the north east and I'm on 32k. But cost of living and houses are sooooo much cheaper here. I am not scraping by, I'm doing good.
I'd say you're very underpaid, I'm making about 50% more than that in a fully remote UK-based mid-level position. You should start looking for a new job, even if it's just as leverage to get paid fairly at your current place.
To add to this, I get paid more as a junior in Wales which should be comparable to NW England economically.
Oh yeah, I'm severely underpaid in my current job, even for where I live and what my role is. But I'm happy with my bosses and my colleagues. They've got my back more than not and I can be happy knowing I'm not in a hostile work environment. They are my genuine friends. Also helps that I enjoy the work I do. It's not going to be my forever job but I'm savoring it while i can before I move on.
If they're genuine friends they'll be receptive when you ask them to pay you fairly.
I already get paid more than the three directors, we're a small company with very little money at the moment, and under threat of going under. They want to pay me more. It's just if they did, the company goes under next month instead of a few months down the line if no new clients come to the table and actually commit to working with us.
However things like cars, phones, vacations, gas/petrol or electricity still cost the same everywhere...
Vacations maybe because that also depends on where you want to go. Cars can differ wildly, unless you want a sportscar or some such. Same goes for phones, often you get one „free“ with your contract for mobile. Gas/Petrol vary a lot, because of taxes and other state side things attached to them. Same goes for electricity plus those also depend on availability.
A VW Golf or a Hyundai i20 costs the same in London as in a village, not only a Porsche.
Same for the phone, the contract per month is the same anywhere you live.
Taxes on gas usually are the same for all locations in a country, at least in the countries I've lived in. Only highway/town variations.
I'd love to see where electricity prices vary locally, never seen that myself.
I interpreted your comment as between countries, my bad then.
Pounds and dollars are not the same. Also don't move country just for a job, you can probably work remotely anyway!
£, not $, but yes.
Holy shit, that's nothing outside of London. At that point be a restaurant server.
One thing in the US that has been encouraging is the very lowest earners are getting big jumps in pay, while people like devs are stagnating