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[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 140 points 8 months ago (25 children)

I had a discussion with a guy, about consent. He argued that it is unnatural and that we are the only species who care about it. Nature only worked because females of any breed got raped.

This comic strip subject was my point that this is not the case. Females actively chose their partners, can deny them and it is eventually them who chose when they want/can breed

[–] Fisk400@feddit.nu 109 points 8 months ago (5 children)

While you are correct in your point it is still giving to much ground to his argument.

Even if it is unnatural, who cares. Consent makes humanity happier and more stable on all fronts. If it isn't natural it is a social technology and we use those to improve our lives every day.

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 41 points 8 months ago

On top of that, and to strengthen your point even more, humans are humans because we have moved a way from, and controlled our animalistic behavior. We likentonsee ourselves as more than just animals. Why then compare us to them when it comes to questions like these

[–] oce@jlai.lu 12 points 8 months ago
[–] Vex_Detrause@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

When you are getting consent do you ask them to say the words? Or like take a video of you two saying the words? Or do you just feel the room like normal respectful person? -Seriously asking.

[–] Fisk400@feddit.nu 4 points 8 months ago

You feel the room. You make a move and then you make sure they make a move before you make another. As tings progress you check in with your partners with questions like "is this ok", "do you like that" and the answers need to be unambiguous. It's a bit like being each other's cheer leaders and hyping each other up.

Another important thing that should be normalized is that women should also check in with men in the same way and if they dont men need to have the balls to call that out.

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

People use this same thinking to defend veganism. Such a good point.

[–] Fisk400@feddit.nu 1 points 8 months ago

People use it to attack veganism too.

[–] alp@lemmy.zip 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It is not making rapist psychopaths happier, which still is the plurality.

[–] Fisk400@feddit.nu 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Are you suggesting that the majority of people are rapist psychopaths?

[–] alp@lemmy.zip -4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Indeed, what I believe is that majority of regular men have an unbelievable approach to women.

[–] Fisk400@feddit.nu 3 points 8 months ago

That is not the same statement as men being psychotic rapists. Is that what you believe or is this what you believe?

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