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This might just sound like the same old shit others voice with the recent gaza genocide, but ive hated israel for far longer. In high school i read a book called the olive grove, its based on a true story of a Palestinian family that lost every thing to the zionist movement. It follows 3 generation of the family from the first world war till after the second. It tells of the horrors they faced by the us backed terrorists taking their home and land turning away from the atrocities being committed. Its heart breaking, and when i read it in 2009 i didnt fully understand but seeing all the shit done now, i just think this cycle of hate started and can not be stopped.

Idk what else to say, i mean i could go on and on but i dont have the mental capacity to do so while drinking. I recommend others to read the book, it was a very good read when i was a high schooler and i plan to start it again as soon as i can find my copy.

Here is a link to the book if anyone is interested in reading it https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2327988.The_Olive_Grove

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[–] Breezy@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The nazis had about a decade to commit evil, but israel has been at it for 70+ years. We dont even know all the horrible things that have been done. So no ill stick with worse then nazis. This is unpopular opinions after all.

[–] qooqie@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Yea and I respect the community, not downvoting you for doing exactly what this community is for lol

[–] Zevlen@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

He's downvoted by people who can't accept the truth. This happens all the time to me especially if I mention the word Zionist/Zionism.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Nah. Hes being downvoted because the Israeli government isn't doing anything as evil as the holocaust. And he keeps insulting the people that disagree. Its not on the same level, even slightly, but it's still fucking evil. By all means, hate Israel for this. I have since I was a kid and the IDF killed my babysitter in cold blood. They're not nazis, but theyre evil genocidal monsters who should be reviled nontheless.

[–] small44@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago

Besides gaz chambers, i would say they are similar. Both used famine as a strategy and instead of mass shooting Israel is doing mass bombardment

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I think most people who call them Nazis are doing so because of the mindset. Israel is forced to exercise a modicum of restraint while Nazis had none at all, but their actions and rhetoric are extremely similar. Not saying no one thinks the IDF is doing things on a similar scale to the Holocaust (I did until like five minutes ago), but that's not really the reason for the comparison. "If it looks like a Nazi, walks like a Nazi and quacks like a Nazi, it's a Nazi" is a pretty logically sound line of thinking.

To repeat myself just in case, the Nazis' industrialization of death was on a level on its own that hopefully won't be repeated again, but the Lebensraum aspect of Nazi ideology is replicated almost exactly as a core tenet of Zionist thinking. This is why they're called Nazis.

[–] Breezy@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I had actually been trying to think of a truely unpopular opinion, and it finally hit me to post this. Its a shame i dont know how to fully explain my deep hatred but the general idea is all thats needed for an unpopular opinion lol.

[–] Fahoobamagoo_a@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

I get that and I think it's in the spirit of unpopular opinions. It's actually interesting how divisive this topic is. I think in my circles I have an equally unpopular opinion of the exact opposite stance which is that war happens and atrocities come out of it and picking sides in the middle east is a fools errand. I think israel was dealt a shit hand where their existence comes at the displacement of Palestinians, they have holocaust trauma and then their neighbors want them dead, and then they are given superior fire power. How is that recipe going to play out? But I know emotions are high and there has to be a "right" side and a good guy and a bad guy.