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Illinois judge rules Donald Trump is disqualified from the state's 2024 election ballot
(www.usatoday.com)
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I watched it on TV. Doesn't take a genius to watch the days events of January 6th unfold, and the months prior to know he attempted a coup to stay in power. Why it failed, I don't have any insider knowledge.
But it's come out that it was a lot more coordinated behind the scenes than what we all witnessed on Jan. 6th. We don't need a jury for that (although there is an ongoing criminal investigation for it)
Literally the FBI said it wasnt at all coordinated. But that is a separate question to if Trump was responsible for what happened in any way.
Judge Wallace in Colorado found that Trump engaged in insurrection. It’s now a legal fact.
I doubt USA Today is based in Colorado, other states might decide he didn’t engage in insurrection. There are still cases pending against him.
Donald Trump spent months telling people to come to the capital on January 6th, you really gonna try to say that wasn't coordinated in anyway, hell?
But, that's not even what I was talking about, Trump fired generals, and had a whole fake electorate scheme, and there was a behind the scenes coup attempt that the public didn't really know about. That's the part I was saying was coordinated. Jan. 6th was a distract if anything for the real coup plot.
And the only reason it failed is bcz there were a lot of high level officials in the government who wouldn't go along with it.
What is wrong with telling people to come to the capitol? I understand your point, but he didnt do anything illegal or he would have been prosecuted already.
He IS being prosecuted for the fake electoral scheme. You also seem to think this country's laws actually apply equally to everybody. You obviously haven't been paying enough attention to what's been happening.
Our system is pay to win.
So he has been convicted then? I agree, money and power talk; you ever wonder why this trial is happening now, not a couple years ago?
Are you just trolling people now?
Disagreement is not trolling.
Eh, blatantly moving the goal posts when your earlier statement is directly contradicted? Yeah, that is trolling.
Its always been about if trump was convicted of the crime people saying he is guilty of.
Each trial is unique, but there are two general reasons. First, in cases of large criminal networks, it's typical to prosecute Lieutenants first and move up the chain, and that's what has happened. That maximizes the ability of prosecutors to collect information before striking at the top. Second, Trump has no real defense on these cases, so his entire strategy has been delay, delay, delay. He wants to win the presidency and make the charges go away by whatever means he can muster.
Because these things take forever to go through the courts and a major tactic Trump uses is delay delay delay. He constantly has his attorneys push for delaying any hearings. Then there are appeals which also delay, then bounce back to the other courts of various levels. It takes absolutely forever because he's rich. If it were you or I we'd be sitting in prison and having a judgment within a month.
Literally people on Jan 6th were already convicted and are out of prison. The jan 6th shaman was sentenced to 41 months in prison and was already released back in the summer... I can understand how the process take a long time, but when was trump arrested?
Uh, couple of times now? Mug shots and everything...
You do know mug shots are not convictions right?
You do know arrests aren't convictions, right? Whatever...
Gotcha, my mistake, I was actually looking for an answer to the question as an actual date to point out that he wasnt even arrested til 2023.
We all have a gigantic issue with that fact. He's wealthy and now a "politician" so he gets Special Treatment™ while the plebs get the hammer.
The plebs also had a much more obvious case of some form of "breaking and entering" while the Mafia Don sits back and can say "it wasn't me, all I said was: will someone rid me of this troublesome ~~pence~~ priest?"
That is usually true, but the machine doesnt want him back in. Do you think its just by chance he has been fined about a half billion on two BS cases?
Cost of living where I'm at is getting fucking expensive... I've always had hesitations about it but about how much does a nice rock to live under cost these days?
Its too complicated of an insult, you need to be more direct and more clever.
You'd probably be able to more easily afford a place to live if a) the central bank didn't print 50% of the money supply in recent years and b) if there weren't millions of migrants competing with you for housing or c) people moving near you from places that are being overrun by migrants.