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    Yes, I made it using a laptop's trackpad, how could you tell?

    [Image description: Panel 1: Young man confidently walking, his vest bears the Wayland logo. Behind him is a grunt with the Gnome logo on his face holding a katana. The young man says: "It's high time you retire, old man!" Panel 2: An old man with a long beard and the Xorg logo on his chest is sitting on a throne and petting a rat, the XFCE mascot. He says: "It's still a hundred years too early for you to defeat me!" ]

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    [–] dannoffs@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    It's the systemd drama all over again

    [–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 22 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

    No.

    System D was/Is a philosophical debate.

    Wayland vs X is a mortal attempting to summit Mt. Everest naked. Everyone is cheering Wayland on, no one believes it'll succeed.

    Even the X people are like "Honestly it'd be a relief if you pulled this off, we're so tired, please end us"

    [–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 32 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    No one thinks it'll succeed? Obviously you and I exist in very different parts of the linux sphere, cause I'm pretty sure X11 is all but dead as a project and its kinda just a question of how long it takes for Wayland to be feature complete enough to reach a critical mass of adoption. And its kinda feeling like we're currently on the cusp of being there with the major DEs moving towards discontinuing X11 support 😅

    [–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    This software has been in development for a long time and still doesn't work for my niche usecase and this therefore UNUSABLE and DOOMED TO FAIL

    • Actual Linux users, completely oblivious to the irony of that sentence
    [–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    That's a weird take. You have a software that you use and suits your needs. It's showing its age, but still tricks along. Then there's this other software that's gaining spotlight, but it does not suit all your needs. You point out the regression. Some rando makes fun of your valid point.

    [–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    I agree with what you're saying, but you're shifting the goalpost.

    Everyone is cheering Wayland on, no one believes it’ll succeed

    That parent comment (and other comments like it in these threads) are what I take issue with. You can make the exact same argument why people should stick with Windows and not bother with Linux.

    [–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 1 points 8 months ago

    But.. You didn't take issue with that. You ridicularized a completely different statement, one that was valid even. You pulled a reverse strawman on yourself. If you'd made a counterpoint to original post, I'd have agreed with you.

    [–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    X is 36 years old. Wayland is 15. Wayland was not the first attempt at unseating that throne and for the sake of all our sanity, I hope it's the last. I don't want Wayland to win because it's better, I want Wayland to win because I'm tired of trying to use it and having to go back to X because it broke something.

    [–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 4 points 8 months ago

    Sounds like a skill issue to me

    [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 20 points 8 months ago

    Everyone is cheering Wayland on, no one believes it'll succeed.

    Uhhmm. I think by now most see it inevitable with distros and DEs switching on increasing pace

    [–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml -2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    What the fuck is “System D”?

    [–] Pantherina@feddit.de 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)
    [–] eya@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)
    [–] Pantherina@feddit.de 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    Let me quack that for you then

    [–] loaExMachina@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

    Is that the word for using Duckduckgo? I figured it'd be "duckduckgoing", like "I just duckduckwent systemd". Anyway, I use searx, so I'd obviously say "I searxed".

    [–] Pantherina@feddit.de 3 points 8 months ago

    Quacking is just way better haha

    [–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    I think that was an attempt to call me out for giving zero fucks about Android spellcheck dicking with my comment.

    [–] Pantherina@feddit.de 0 points 8 months ago

    No for not searching it up yourself lol