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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

It's a chicken or the egg scenario .... or the snake eating its tail ... it's an idea that isn't possible without giving up the past

Electoral Reform can only happen with a new system of power ... a new system of power can only come about through electoral reform

Current power structures don't, won't or can't change because of the current electoral system ... the electoral system can't change because of current power structures

We're asking the current leadership to give up their positions of power to make way for what people want ... they have to be willing to sacrifice their careers in order to create change ... they have to be the ones to create that change.

It's a dumb system because power and control is built into who ever has power ... and power can't be changed unless you find a way to remove those in power (and no I'm NOT advocating for or suggesting violent change, I'm talking about democratic change)

Unless we find more courageous politicians who are willing to make that change ... nothing will happen

Unless we find a way to disconnect money, finances and wealth from the system ... nothing will happen

EDIT: critical missing word added

[–] m0darn@lemmy.ca 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

(and no I'm advocating for or suggesting violent change, I'm talking about democratic change)

I think you're missing a "not" in there.

Yeah initially Trudeau presented himself as willing to make those changes. But he/the Liberals was/were/is/are obviously too connected/beholden to entrenched power to get electoral reform. Maybe people thought because he was new to politics he would be more independent?

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago

Thanks for that ... I made the edit.

I find that whenever one offers a political critique, one has to include the explicit explanation they don't advocate for violence or insurrection.

If more people ... or everyone for that matter ... just became more organized and voted out the people that are holding up this system ... we'd actually be able to institute change.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 months ago

We're asking the current leadership to give up their positions of power

I think the situation we are currently in, where the governing party who has a reasonably functional working relationship with another party, and seems likely to lose big to a conservative party who has historically shown that they won't cooperate with anyone else.

Electoral reform before the next election might be in the best interests of both the Liberals and NDP at this moment in time, if they believe can get enough votes between them to be able to form an actual coalition and keep the conservatives out of power.