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[โ€“] Guy_Fieris_Hair@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Type 1 = Not preventable Type 2 = 90% "Preventable". And of that 90% of people that could have just.. prevented it... it seems if it was that easy they would have just done it. But maybe there are some comorbidities like thyroid issues, eating disorders, or just straight up depression, those all being other medical issues that got them to the state they are. Honestly, poverty leads to fat people as well. It is expensive to not eat like shit in the US. But, maybe you are right, people just need to stop being fatties and pull themselves up by the bootstraps Mr. Internet Man.

And before you think I dug my heels in against universal health care I didn't. (That is where this conversation started) I have been on that bandwagon for decades. But the government making laws about what you can and can't do with your own body with the justification being the Healthcare costs is terrifying and something I haven't really thought about. It is one thing if they say you are not covered for it (although that is a dangerous avenue as well), but to make a law stating you are or aren't allowed to do something is scary. As for the diabetes, you made a shitty comment with no compassion or empathy to other people's struggles. I don't care about the downvotes or internet points, I will stay here and argue as long as you're still replying.

[โ€“] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

And of that 90% of people that could have just.. prevented it... it seems if it was that easy they would have just done it.

Well, that brings us back to the original point. That our government ignores the capitalization of addictive harmful substances to the peril of our society's over all health.

But maybe there are some comorbidities like thyroid issues, eating disorders, or just straight up depression

All of which can be improved with a regiment of healthy diet and exercise....... A lot of our problem with diabetes is that we over prescribe medications without attempting to manage things like activity level or diet.

stop being fatties and pull themselves up by the bootstraps Mr. Internet Man.

Weren't you the one who was just preaching about personal responsibilities? My claim is that the government should have more input over consumables that negatively impact the country's overall health. How does that equivocate to "pull themselves up by the bootstraps"?

But the government making laws about what you can and can't do with your own body with the justification being the Healthcare costs is terrifying and something I haven't really thought about.

What, you want everything to be made of asbestos? Or are you upset that the government banned you from working in mines as a child?

Part of a governments responsibility is to protect it's citizens from companies selling exceedingly dangerous or harmful products.

As for the diabetes, you made a shitty comment with no compassion or empathy to other people's struggles.

Calling a preventable disease preventable is just accurate. Your current virtue signaling is just a vain response to being corrected.

You don't help any patient by lying to them about their own health, or withholding the most advantages treatment options. Sometimes the best medicine is just hard truths.