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[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 23 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Starvation in a concentration camp of an entire population is the most "Netanyahu" thing imaginable. Yet it's Netanyahu doing it.

The current state of affairs for Palestinians at the hands of the Israeli government is grim. As grim as things are, they would be substantially worse with Trump in Power.

Are diplomatic efforts to stop the violence a bit anemic? Yes. There would be no such efforts from Trump.

Effectively, the more influential you are with your premise, the more Palestinians will suffer.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

There's an entire israeli cabinet screaming for the extermination of all Arabs.

And Biden gets on his knees and bypasses Congress to give that cabinet weapons.

This is not a Netanyahu problem. Netanyahu is just the spoilt child raised by Biden who knows there will not be any punishment for his crimes.

Every supposed red line Biden set has been broken and there have been zero consequences. In fact Biden wants to give them 17 billion dollars for doing such a good job Genociding Palestinians.

[–] Imalostmerchant@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Are you saying it's not possible to do worse than Biden?

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Are you saying it’s not possible to do better than Biden?

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Are you saying that would be trump?

[–] beardown@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Trump is worse than Biden

Is it not possible to do better than Biden?

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Not in a two party system like the United States have. You can only choose the less terrible option, because doing anything else is only helping the really bad choice.

[–] beardown@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

If our system requires us to vote for genocide, then doesn't that mean our system needs to be repealed and replaced with a new system that does not require such evil?

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I have no stake in American politics, just observing from the outside. But yes you’d probably need a massive systemic reform, but that will not happen because half your population is against any reason or rationality categorically opposed to whatever the progressive side wants. That, and the entrenched billionaires who would probably assassinate political leaders seeking actual change.

[–] beardown@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Agreed. But does that mean that such a reform should not even be pursued?

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 3 points 8 months ago

I certainly agree, I just don’t think that not electing biden, when the only other realistic outcome is trump, is the way to start that process. This needs a lot of grassroots work, probably including bringing over progressive democrats into a new progressive party which could be an actual player during the next election.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Are you saying that would be trump?

Where did I say that?

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 months ago
[–] njm1314@lemmy.world -2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It is amazing how these people so against "genocide" seem to keep forgiving Netanyahu isn't it? No he's in nowhere responsible nor is Trump who helped to prop Netanyahu up. It's amazing that isn't it?

[–] beardown@lemm.ee 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Netanyahu and Israel would not be functional if we cut off support, let alone if we openly opposed them

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago

I guess history just started this last year huh? Amazing that isn't it? Nothing before the election year matters. So terribly convenient that.