Moderates would rather lose to fascists than compromise with leftists and progressives.
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Or just hand the election over to the guy who is going to push the pedal down all that stuff you claim to care about. We’re trying to minimize our losses as best we can, and right now, Biden seems to be the best that Democrats can muster up. Not the best situation to be in, but he’s still miles ahead of Trump on everything. Any issue you care about, well you’ll be reading about them in history books as an afterthought if Trump comes to power… if history books haven’t already been censored to just ignore any controversial issues altogether. Who the hell even needs history books when we have the Bible, the only source of information a citizen would ever need, that and TNN, the Trump News Network.
If third parties really want to make a change, they need to go after smaller, local elections, you build up a movement from the ground up. Any third parties in national elections that have almost no presence anywhere else are highly suspect and likely just there for the attention and/or to draw votes from one candidate or another.
I live in a solidly red state. The odds of it flipping in the next 20 years is nil. If I vote 3rd party, it
Sad that the system disincentives people in safe states to take their vote seriously. I get it, though. I protest voted in a safe state in 2016. Just... remember that if things go south, the knowledge that your vote was pointless doesn't always erase all of the guilt.
Your third party vote count will be below the lizardman constant and will be ignored.
Everyone ignores the lizard people until they can no longer be ignored 🦎🦎
If you want to cause infighting in the RNC, organise a campaign to write in the name of some other Republican. Mitt Romney, or Liz Cheney.
You mean "forever".
We've tried. Moderates fight us there too.
not where im from. third parties do decently in local races.
Glad to hear it. How long until that results in some material improvements for the American people? 10 years? 20? 30? I've already waited 16 years.
local will effect local im afraid. I have been suffering under the worse of two evils half the time for the last several decades and very much prefere the lesser. Much would be different if deregulation had not happened along with lower taxes for wealthy along with gutting environmental regulations. etc
I'm not content waiting around another 16 years hoping something will change. Especially when nobody telling me to keep hanging on has any confidence the next 16 years will be any different.
Im not waiting but im not sacrificing better in the hopes worse will lead to even better. Personally I far prefered biden, obama, over trump and I think your perspective would be a bit different if you experience bush, bush2, and reagan. ill take slightly better now over maybe somehow worse will get us to magically transform to way better.
Perhaps that's because you have enough that's worth protecting and then you turn around and shame people for acting differently because they do not.
Stop attack leftists and progressives. Go after moderates.
Im a moderate (for real but by todays standards am super left instead of left of center) so that would be going after myself. Youl would have more worth protecting if we had never went into iraq or had a better environment due to having regulation or a better standard of living if taxes were collected on those who can afford it rather than being squeezed out of anyone not dirt poor. Your life is the result of those who felt it was fine to let the right win over and over a gain. even the clinton period was dominated by gingrich.
You have a part to play in that when you vote against our interests in the primaries and claim our efforts are "too radical".
many efforts are to radical. Am I looking to get rid of capitalism. No. and if you think that type of thing is going to get a majority vote then your dreaming. But you know there are many many who want sensible regulation and for taxes to be collected. That is an achievable majority. I would love to get rid of first past the post and at least give that radicalism some voice so that can come out of the center.
Then elect your pro-corporate trash candidate on your own in 2024. Don't expect our help.
yeah and be fine with what trump drops on gaza as opposed to biden.
Well make a choice between the "too radical" efforts by leftists and progressives or a Trump presidency. Stop whining about the fact that you have to compromise with other people.