Moderates would rather lose to fascists than compromise with leftists and progressives.
this post was submitted on 26 Feb 2024
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Unfortunately, many countries have First-Past-The-Post voting systems, so voting for a third party is often, mathematically, basically the same as voting for the competition.
It's called "The Spoiler Effect", if you want to look it up, and it's why we have many of the two party problems we have today in modern democracy. Ranked Choice/Single Transferrable Vote are much better systems.
Well, many democracies do not vote for their president directly – parliament elects one. They are usually from the strongest party, although if enough smaller parties can get a majority, they can elect the president.
Yeah but FPTP is used for parliament in those countries, which means the party that chooses the president is elected via it.
Ranked Choice, STV, or Mixed Member Proportional Ranking are much better systems. I wish more countries used it.
No, it isn't always. In Germany for example, you have two votes per state and federal election. One vote goes to a candidate in your district (fptp, yes) but the other vote is just for a party. The parties put up lists of candidates and parliament gets filled proportionally to the votes they got nationally or statewide.
Now all these smaller parties could form a coalition to get the majority or just use their extensive array of minority opposition powers that the law grants them.
That's called MMPR and I wasn't aware Germany did that. That's a great way to ensure equal representation.
Which moderates will never support.
I don't think it's a moderate, left, or right problem. More a "the current power structure will never support it" because it works for those in power now to their advantage.
That just sounds like an attempt to deflect blame away from moderate voters. They undermine, sabotage and attack every effort by progressives and leftists. Then they turn around and expect us to show up in the general election after fucking us over for four years.
Do you prefer Trump?
"That's not the point!!! The mode-"
So you'd prefer Trump.
"Listen, Joe is commiting geno-"
Trump literally bankrolled anything Netanyahu wanted while in power. Remember the map they made together for a free Palestine in 2016? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_peace_plan
"Well he-" so would anything of your progressive agenda do better under Trump?
"We need a revolu-" yeah, it's happening. The USA is slowly becoming an xenophobic anarcho-capitalist religious theocracy for the old & rich. Accelerates greatly when Trump holds power.
"I just won't vote either!!!"
Ok. Go ahead. Just don't complain later when Israel has a $150 billion dollar defense bill coming its way versus 15 billion. You likely will regardless though.
Also unions are being nailed to the cross for all to see 🤷🏿♂️. They are trialing it in Florida rn, his role model state. https://www.wlrn.org/government-politics/2023-06-30/floridas-new-union-law-sb-256
Cant wait to see this as Federal policy right? They'll try.
Your call though. Im saving up all I can so my friends & I can be safe when shit falls off the cliff.
"You literally didn't respond to a single point I made!!!"
Keep crying troll.