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[–] Sordid@beehaw.org 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (10 children)

Morrowind is the reason I’m in the game industry and has impacted my life more than any other single piece of media. It’s been heartbreaking for me to see the treatment Elder Scrolls has gotten. I was so excited for Skyrim it was the only game I’ve ever preordered, it’s the reason I originally got a Steam account, and the whole game is a let down start to finish.

I feel pretty much the same as you about those games, which makes me very curious what your opinion of Oblivion is. I've recently had a bit of a (belated) revelation about it, so I'm interested in other opinions and discussion.

[–] The_Terrible_Humbaba@beehaw.org 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

Not the person you replied to, but in my opinion was Oblivion was pretty good, but not as good as Morrowind. Compared to MW a lot of things felt dumbed down (i.e. beast races can wear shoes, no armour/clothes layers, no spear, etc.), and although I ~~don't~~ think there's much they could do to make the environment more interesting, ~~since the setting is what it's meant to be~~, the dungeons felt incredibly boring and repetitive.

However, I did quite like the story - especially how you are not a chosen one, which is rare for such games - and I thought a lot of the quests were pretty interesting, arguably at MW's level or better (there are definitely some exceptions*). The Dark Brotherhood quest line especially, which is not present in MW, and is much better than Skyrim's DB quest line.

*I will also add something that I hated: despite not being a chosen one story, it allowed you to be the head of all guilds, resulting in a quest where you may have to steal something from yourself.

[–] Malgas@beehaw.org 4 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I don’t think there’s much they could do to make the environment more interesting, since the setting is what it’s meant to be

The hell it is. According to the in-game book Provinces of Tamriel:

Cyrodiil is the cradle of Human Imperial high culture on Tamriel. It is the largest region of the continent, and most is endless jungle.

Emphasis mine. And when I say in-game, that book was literally in Oblivion.

[–] The_Terrible_Humbaba@beehaw.org 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Ah, I did not know that, I always pictured Cyrodill as just medieval Europe inspired, including the more temperate climate.

[–] godzilla_lives@beehaw.org 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If I recall correctly, the in-game explanation is that a former emperor-turned-god transformed the landscape to what we see in Oblivion. Guy basically used console commands lol.

Personally, I like the world in Oblivion. I always thought that people didn't give it enough credit, with the various environment biomes like the swamps and tundra areas. I also love the cities so much. Leyowin has this middle ages New Orleans vibe that I just love!

[–] Poggervania@kbin.social 3 points 8 months ago

Funnily enough, what you said is pretty close to what happened in canon. The Emperor at the time (I forget who it was, probably Tiber Spetim) had a legitimate methaphysically-powered Gundam/EVA unit and used it to basically terraform the jungles of Cyrodill into what we see in Oblivion

So he basically modded Cyrodill with the power of Numidium.

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