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[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I believe that most developed countries have gotten rid of the death penalty, and a big part of that is because it doesn't work as a deterrent.

Very few people decide whether or not to commit a crime based on the punishment. Most criminals think they won't get caught at all, or if they do, they think they'll get away with it in court.

[–] FatCrab@lemmy.one 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

This slightly misses the mark. The majority of crimes, including violent ones, are not committed by people performing a risk calculus. They're done with minimal thought and more often than not in the heat of the moment. Effectively, they are not crimes that you can deter because for a crime to be deterred, the potential criminal has to assess whether it makes sense to commit the crime. This works in cases of like financial fraud and white collar crime. Someone shooting another person during an altercation, not so much.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah there’s a way to deter crimes and it’s increasing the certainty of punishment. Overly severe punishment actually has an unwanted effect of increasing the severity of crimes. If a rapist is going to die if caught that incentivizes murdering the victim who is inherently a witness.

[–] fastandcurious@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Thanks here for this comment, I feel like I see where my stance might not make sense, ofc death penalty should not be given in cases like this where emotion takes over, I am rather taking about ppl like trump and gates and Netanyahu who are completely sane, they just kill for their own benefit

Ppl here have assumed that just because I said ‘I see reason’ means I feel like you need to kill everyone who commits this, No, I am saying that I don’t know the exact circumstance, it might or might not be justified, I hope we can clear this up moving forward