this post was submitted on 24 Feb 2024
719 points (98.1% liked)

politics

19223 readers
3264 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

At the Young Republican mixer Friday evening a group of Nazis, who openly identified as national socialists, mingled with mainstream conservative personalities, including some from Turning Point USA, and discussed race science and antisemitic conspiracy theories.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.world 56 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 40 points 9 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)
[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

They did the same to the bent cross. There's one on the Baha'i House of Worship in Wilmette, IL. It's there because the house of worship was designed and dedicated in 1912, so yeah WWI hadn't quite kicked off at the time

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bah%C3%A1%CA%BC%C3%AD_House_of_Worship_(Wilmette,_Illinois)

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)
[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Even though it is an Abrahamic Religion, the founding concept is Unity Through Diversity. They forgot that El, aka Yahweh, was a God of War back in The Bronze Age Collapse, and focused on the hippy commune part of Christ's teachings.

[–] Kedly@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Can we take that rune back? I'm pretty big on family, although the patriotism bit I could probably do without

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)
[–] Kedly@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Hell yeah, loyalty to your local tribe of weirdos(said affectionately)? I can fully get behind that. When I finally save up enough to get my shoulder tat, I'm gonna include Othala into it

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)
[–] Kedly@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So I finally found some time to read your link and do some general googling found a bindrune created by the "Wayfarers Mark" tumbler called the Initiate's Bindrune that I like. I'll definitely look into this stuff more than I have already, and I thank you for showing me this world

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)
[–] Kedly@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I went and looked up the meaning of all the runes thanks to that chart laying out which ones were in it,and overall I'm happy with each of the vibes conveyed. The only vibe I'm not sure I identify with are the fertility vibes, but eh, I'm not AGAINST fertility vibes xD Its shape is also something I could see easily being incoporated with a "tribal" pheonix tattoo that was already going to be my eventual tattoo. I'm definitely down for further rune chats! Also I apologize for how long it takes me to respond to you, you seem like a cool person, so I've been waiting til I had the energy for proper responses before I respond

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

deleted by creator

[–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] Qwaffle_waffle@sh.itjust.works 10 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I'm out of the loop, what does that symbol mean? Not sure how I would look it up without a name or something.

[–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 30 points 9 months ago (3 children)

It is the runic letter Othala. It is just a letter in the runic alphabet. Beyond being a letter though often runes had an individual meeting or association in the cultures that used them.

It, along with many other symbols were adopted by the Nazis. Now among white power groups it is has a meaning of racial purity. "Keeping the white race pure"

Oh and the picture is real I looked it up.

[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

To be fair, that rune looks really easy to make by accident.

[–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Maybe but if you look closely at the stage. it is Othala with wings. There are little feet that come up off the legs. An iteration that I believe is exclusively used as a white power symbol. At best it was a massive fuck up, at worst it was a dog whistle. Though ultimately it is a dog whistle, for the people who this symbol has meaning will see it as one.

Spelling

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Nah, the design choices by themselves are pretty fucking weird.

[–] Qwaffle_waffle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for the info, I only knew of the swatiska one really , didn't know that group used several symbols. Kind of not wanting to dig too deep and be flagged is why I don't know, I guess. Much appreciated for sharing the awareness.

[–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah that is fair, it is hard to keep track of everything especially with co-opted symbols. I know I can't. Though here is an okay rule of thumb with Nazi shit.

Does it look "Viking/old Germanic"? No - probably not a Nazi, Yes - maybe a Nazi

Is the person using the symbol new age hippie looking? Yes - probably not a Nazi, No - maybe a Nazi

I know that leaves a lot of vagueness, but it is a good place to start. Then you can double check any suspects symbols.

Just remember different groups can have vastly different ideologies and look somewhat similar. For example the SHARPs (Skinheads Against Racial Prejudice) are very anti Nazi. But just looking at a group of them you might be confused. As they tend to be mostly militant white young men wearing leather with shaved heads.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I hate that that’s not even incorrect as I’ve met multiple Norse pagan antifascists. One common line from them is asserting that Odin is the all father not the some father.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

deleted by creator

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Make it curvy and it becomes HIV/AIDS symbol.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You mean the shape of a ribbon? Ribbons have been used for all kinds of symbols.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yes but in this case just make those angles not-pointy and the symbol will look like:

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago

Yes, and it's a ribbon shape, nothing to do with AIDS in particular.

[–] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Othala

I can never remember the name of the thing but after digging through some "cpac stage symbol" searches it seems to be called the othala rune or the odal rune.

[–] Qwaffle_waffle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

Thanks for the info!