A Jewish linguist/historian/activist talking about how equating the Soviets and the Nazis is rhetoric used to justify current and past antisemitism including holocaust collaboration.

[–] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Ah, so it’s being used as chud fud.

My comparison of the two stems from their harsh authoritarian/totalitarian nature as seen from an anarchist lens, nothing to do with genocide.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah so the thing is you're still doing it, the whole "authoritarian" thing is another way of doing a false equivalence between the two.

If you want to do an anarchist critique compare the USSR to bourgeoise democracies, it is a closer comparison.

[–] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

To do so would be to ignore the worst elements of the USSR, so I don't know why I would do that.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You don't know a lot of the history of bourgeois democracies if you think you can't compare the worst the USSR has done with what bourgeois democracies have done.

Maybe you'd want to do it to stop taking part in holocaust trivialization, but you also insulted the Dovid Katz essay so IDK.

[–] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Maybe you want to drop the fud and trying to inject the holocaust into a comparison as means to discredit a point when it was never made in the first place. There's no defending the USSR or ML, so I'm not going to bite and engage in an argument designed to downplay the evils of it.

And that essay was utter wank filled with needlessly gratuitous language that languished on for countless paragraphs. It easily could have been condensed into a paragraph or two with some historical examples thrown in to justify the argument.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

There’s no defending the USSR or ML, so I’m not going to bite and engage in an argument designed to downplay the evils of it.

Lol, yes there is, and it is a very simple argument:

A transitional state moving towards communism is less violent than a capitalist state.
All large anarchist attempts at governing were basically the same as the USSR under war socialism(Catalonia, which started much more industrialized, and lost, because of, among other things, anarchist organizational failure) or worse (free state of Ukraine, which led to a wave of pogroms because they refused to suppress reactionary elements))