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[–] Tja@programming.dev 27 points 9 months ago (4 children)

No. My impressions are based on having lived it before the iron curtain fell.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Unless you're over a 100 years old you lived in a totalitarian system masquerading as Communism.

[–] Tja@programming.dev -4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

See how you didn't even have to ask which country it was? Because a 100% of communist countries became dictatorships ridden with poverty for the working class and gold plated luxury for the ruling class.

I'm happy now somewhere in the middle in this terrible, terrible capitalism. Oh, and I'm free to leave anytime I want, if I don't like it.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

So do 100% of Capitalist countries without a strong democracy. In fact capitalism is the one designed to do so by concentrating capital.

When we figure out communism or socialism there's a really good chance it's a strong democracy that prevents it from falling into totalitarianism. Will it be a bunch of anarchic communes in council? Lol no. Will workers share profit equally with executives? Probably.

[–] Klear@lemmy.world -5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Funny how that's always the result.

[–] Gabu@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago

Funny how that's a fallacy, and there have been countless largely communist organizations of human labor over history, which lasted just as long as capitalist society.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Yeah I don't think we've figured out a good way past the charismatic sociopath problem. The best thing we're going to have in the short term is a democracy with a strong emphasis on socialism.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 16 points 9 months ago (2 children)

But prepare for a 25 year old who lives in his mom's garage in rural Indiana to try to debate you on the subject anyway.

[–] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

He lives in his mother's garage because he can't afford to move out on the pittance he makes at work. It sure wasn't communism that put him there

[–] Gabu@lemmy.ml -4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Says the balding neckbeard living in Brexit-land.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 5 points 9 months ago

Bald, not balding.

[–] Gabu@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You mean the impressions of having lived in a dictatorship which discarded the idea of progressing towards communism? How is that relevant?

[–] Tja@programming.dev -3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

See how you didn't even have to ask which country it was? Because a 100% of communist countries became dictatorships ridden with poverty for the working class and gold plated luxury for the ruling class.

I'm happy now somewhere in the middle in this terrible, terrible capitalism. Oh, and I'm free to leave anytime I want, if I don't like it.

[–] Gabu@lemmy.ml -1 points 9 months ago

Grade-school level history: I didn't need to ask which country because all of the possible countries were puppet states of a single other country...

Because a 100% of communist countries became dictatorships [...]

There are a total of 0 communist countries throughout history. Your lack of very basic knowledge is starting to make me cringe.

I’m happy now somewhere in the middle in this terrible, terrible capitalism.

That's irrelevant. If you're happy while I'm driving a nail through your eyes, does that make driving a nail through someone's eyes a good thing? The fact that you are privileged doesn't make a difference.

Oh, and I’m free to leave anytime I want

No, you're not. Your statement is so completely uneducated, I couldn't even guess where to begin dismantling it.