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[–] RealFknNito@lemmy.world -3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Who said anything about a free pass? You're making shit up now. I said we should vote for him, not get on our knees and suck. Critique him. Talk shit about him just as I have. But if you don't vote for him you're absolutely letting the other guy have a better chance because of your pretentious indignation.

[–] airportline@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

You implicitly said you would still vote for Biden if he "grabbed a gun and started murdering Palestinians in the streets." I'd consider that to be giving Biden a free pass because although I'll vote for Biden, I wouldn't if he started literally murdering people with his own hands, and I don't think you would either.

[–] RealFknNito@lemmy.world -3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Ah right I forget that when pseudo intellectuals are losing an argument you take hyberbolism as a literal point to poison the well.

The damage Biden is likely to cause is far less than the damage Trump already has and has proudly stated he would do. Even if Biden got considerably worse, he would more than likely still be better than Trump and would still get my vote.

There's your boring translation of what I said that you can't easily attack for being hyperbolic.

[–] airportline@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I don't know why you didn't say that the first place. Before, you sounded like a deranged asshole.

[–] RealFknNito@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Hyperbole is used to better illustrate a point by using extremes. Notice how you say I sounded like a deranged asshole. Bit extreme but I understand that you mean I came off rude because instead of just calling me rude you went much further than what a reasonable person would say to make the point more clear.

You understand what it means to be hyperbolic, understood what I meant when I was being hyperbolic, but still forced me to deconstruct it and make it sound more meek than what I intended.

Now that's a bit rude, isn't it?

[–] airportline@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The hyperbole isn't what I care about.

Going up to people who are publicly considering withholding their vote over Biden's handling of the situation in Gaza, calling them irrational, and demanding they do something they believe is against their morals is "asshole behavior." It's almost like you're saying "the issue you care enough about that your willing to risk a second Trump term doesn't matter to me." This behavior is often referred to as "vote-scolding."

I will probably still vote for Biden, but I understand why other won't, and I don't think he should be evaluated only in comparison to Trump.

[–] RealFknNito@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago

He shouldn't only be evaluated by Trump except in the case of when you have two options - Biden or Trump. Then that is literally the time to evaluate him in comparison to Trump.

[–] airportline@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago

Voting for a candidate is a form of supporting that candidate, and OP is frustrated because they don't want to support a candidate that is complicit in crimes against humanity.

That is a completely valid reaction to Biden's actions these last months and I respect them for it, even if I personally will probably still vote for Biden.