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Why is questioning the government a bad thing? Shouldnt we have questioned the government more when we were looking for WMDs?
Difference between holding government accountable and outright saying government is always the problem. The latter only creates apathy among voters.
You summarized it well.
You have two different things there, holding the government accountable, is a thing that happens AFTER they have harmed you, why dont we have mistrust for them while they are making a claim?
Small recent example. General blanket distrust in government leads to unwillingness to trust governmental health experts, leading to making the covid pandemic worse than was necessary.
As was intended by those like Reagan.
Or conversely, the general trust in the government led people to go along with measures like lockdowns that harmed the economy, caused severe inflation, and didnt let the kids go to school.
You are literally repeating bullshit government talking points four years later, you need a little less trust in "experts".
You are literally repeating bullshit conservative misinformation.
https://www.factcheck.org/2022/03/scicheck-what-weve-learned-about-so-called-lockdowns-and-the-covid-19-pandemic/
I am a former engineer, so I am a data driven person not a propaganda driven person. I watched the data they published and I saw exactly what happened before and after lockdowns, and it was literally zero change. But they kept doing it for year(s?) afterward because you guys trusted them. And if you dont believe me, they had a whole big data anaylsis by JP morgan chase at the time. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11687699/lockdowns-difference-coronavirus-destroyed-livelihoods-jp-morgan/
"I'm a data driven person... just look at this article from the sun that supports my position".
I literally saw it and have a direct study at the time; you have a long winded article that says nothing about what I am talking about (unless you can point to the spot you think does). This is the part where you drift away because you wont change your mind.
Whatever you saw is anecdotal. The antithesis of "data driven". Besides which, you've confused me with someone else.
It was literally the entire set of covid data for each state, the exact opposite of an anecdote... Do you understand that the sun is referencing a study done by JP morgan chase?
There are a plethora of studies showing the efficacy of lockdowns.
I showed a direct study that showed that it didnt work in america at all, and that directly reflects what I say in the data real time. Do you have a study that shows it worked in america?
Saying youre "data driven" while ignoring data. Having been an engineer doesn't imbue in you some magical objectivity that makes your conservative talking points infallible. Read the thorough analysis in the link I posted. You're repeating misinformation based on cherry-picked data.
I personally with my own two eyes, watched the data, and then I later saw the study by JP morgan chase that confirmed what I saw. I believed lockdowns were going to have an impact, I was suprised they did not, but being data driven. The link I provided shows direct data with 50 various data points confirming what I said.
That is a long winded article you linked, point to the exact part that says that lockdowns in amerca were affective. Not the part that says "if americans were chinese it would have worked" or "it worked in other countries". I provided direct data, what is your direct data?
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I think its amusing that I trigger you guys so much just by disagreeing.
lol
Exactly, me being defiant pops the bubble you guys have. Sorry, not sorry.
Not really, because the way to ensure government doesn’t do bad things is to vote. There’s no reason to believe that anti-government sentiment makes people politically apathetic.
Not in the US, it isn't.
Do you think anti-government sentiment makes people less apathetic? I don't mean fringes on Facebook, I mean regular people who work and pay their bills and have an hour to get whatever news they can before they sleep and do it all over again.