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[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 40 points 7 months ago (27 children)

Appliance repairman here. New appliances are aggressively overpriced for very little reward. Aside from looking nice they offer nothing new. And worse of all older appliances from the late 90s early 2000s are significantly better than anything coming out right now.

It is a pleasure working on those old appliances when they pop up.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Better in terms of reliability, I'm sure – but what about efficiency?

[–] wim@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I recently was in the market for a new dishwasher.

I compared the EU eco labels (which are based on water and energy use).

Buying the worst possible eco label currently on the market, and comparing it against the best two:

  • A label dishwashers cost almost twice as much (up to €400 more)
  • ombined energy and water costs saved over the lifetime of the device (which I optimistically set for 10 years at three cycles a week) is less than €100 euros
  • If you're not into money, but more concerned about the planet, think about it this way: how much damage could €100 in energy and water spread over 10y really be causing our planet?
  • These savings are only achieved if you use the most ecological program, which fails at it's primary job, which is cleaning dishes.

If I could find a decent 90s model for which parts were still widely available, I'd buy that instead. I truly doubt that burning through these poorly made newer devices are sufficiently more ecological than just using a old machine for a longer time.

[–] onion@feddit.de 1 points 6 months ago

These savings are only achieved if you use the most ecological program, which fails at it's primary job, which is cleaning dishes.

In my experience it cleans just fine? Maybe your dishwasher just sucks

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