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What's the joke?
OP probably assumes it's impossible that a black person might have been born in Scotland in 1820 despite the Atlantic slave trade being in full swing for centuries by that point making this entirely feasible.
Feasible? Sure. Pick 2 people randomly during that time? Unlikely. I have nothing against diversity. And I have nothing against an AI being encouraged to produce diverse outputs. I do think it's a clear indicator of the internal prompts that guide the AIs choices.
I mean, sure. But it's not like that's the only bias. What are the chances it was going to pick two attractive, seemingly well to do people and not two plain farmers or shepherds or something like that? Or people of very different ages or different heights, etc.
It's not choosing entirey randomly but it isn't showing us anything that couldn't have possibly existed.
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No it's showing us anything the creators of the AI want us to see. It won't generate ugly people because the creators used much more attractive people to train the AI. Also, you won't see what your typical Scot looked like in the 1820s, because the creators made the AI change the prompt to add diversity.
It's pretty clear that it's not picking two randomly
The prompt wasn't to generate two equally statistically likely people or something. It was: show me two people. The AI did just that.
Random is implicit in that statement.
The AI did that. Because of a guided output.
What does "guided output" mean in this context?
You guide the output to influence it.
Like making it "diverse" (include a black person), a person being attractive and free of blemishes unless instructed, a person being a specific age like 20-30 unless instructed.
That are just a few examples what I meant.
That does not appear to be what's happening in that image.
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OP would have to be pretty stupid if that's the case.
It looks like they made their account just to post this. They made an account just to tell others they're a moron.
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Apparently the National Library of Scotland has caved to the woke liberal agenda of acknowledging that black people exist and your post deserves to be downvoted!
The fact that 200 years ago, Scotland had about 2 million inhabitants, all of whom were virtually exclusively ethnic scots. Up until about 40 years ago there weren’t even keeping track of that, with over 99% being ethnic scots at the start of the census in the 80s. (Source: Wikipedia)
Now this ai is obviously fabricating bullshit because it was trained to be diverse and inclusive.
https://www.nts.org.uk/stories/africans-at-the-court-of-james-iv
There were more Scots in Africa at the time yet you won’t see AI adding them to pictures.
Exactly. Ask AI for 2 people from India born in 1860. How often one of them will be white?
There was some African dude who the king enjoyed so now it makes sense to depict your typical Scottish man in 1820s as black lol
Yes. There clearly were no black people in Scotland near the time of the US civil war.
You're pissy because "scottish" doesn't mean white people to everyone.
Dude im just looking at demographics… am not even Scottish. Doesn’t change the fact that what this ai does is blatantly made up and could be considered falsifying history.
An AI said there might be black people in Scotland. PROTECT THE HISTORY!
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Why would you want to have inclusive history at the cost of accuracy? That’s literally blind adherence to ideology. You know, the thing religious zealots or nationalists are doing.
The point of history is that we can learn from it, and for that it must be kept as accurate as possible.
Accepting this in the grand scope of things somewhat irrelevant inaccuracy, just because you want the past to be wholesome and coherent with current beliefs, just opens the door to more critical areas of history being changed to fit the narrative.
Just look at the American republicans, who are in the process of banning slavery and black oppression as a topic kids are taught about.
Not really your typical Scottish couple, are they