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[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

You can't just say that the "left and right are a bunch of random incoherent thoughts aligned for no reason..." right after affirming that Capitalism is a right-wing ideology without directly contradicting yourself. And furthermore that point, you omitted the other half of my argument that one can support capitalism AND support social policies at the same time, which are contradictory in basic ideology, but can still be used together.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You're right, I can't say that, because I didn't. I said the opposite.

Social policies are not leftist. You can have right wing social policies. Left vs right is Socialism vs Capitalism.

I'm more than willing to talk more, but you'll have to actually read my comments first.

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I missed the "not" at the beginning, that's what I get trying to argue on the internet on my phone in the morning before being late to work. So apologies for that one.

That being said, I get the point you're trying to make. I don't agree with it, but I have also come to realize that this has become one of those internet arguments that won't do anything but ruin people's day. So I'm pulling the plug on that. Have a good day.

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Now you're showing either extreme dishonesty or an inability to read. They didn't say the left and right are random incoherent thoughts. They implied that's your position, which it seems to be, and said this isn't the case.

Supporting capitalism while supporting social policies is not a contradiction. That's the basic platform of new liberalism, and is an example of the capitalist order asserting its primacy. As the other guy said - adding regulations to capitalism means preserving capitalism. Adding social safety nets to capitalism is shielding capitalism from criticism.