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Americans take note: they're starting the purge with their allies. What do you think Trump and his minions will do if they retake power over the entire country?
Trump has had 4 years to put together a revenge plan. Everyone loves to call him stupid, but he and his team can plan things for stupid purposes. He will purge the federal government he cannot directly profit from. That will have profound downstream effects and harm.
thing is, it's not so much that they're stupid as they're inept.
Trump et al are cunning, like an animal. they have an instinct to strike out and get what they want. what they are not, however, is clever. many people mistake cunning and clever for being the same thing, but they're not. cleverness requires the ability to plan ahead and to be able to competently execute said plan effectively, and, often, Trump and his allies cannot do this, or, at least, often fail to do so effectively.
because they're incompetent, inept, and, often, because they're idiots.
Since it takes skill to build something, but even an idiot can burn it down through incompetence, they are a threat whether the people wanting to tear down the system are competent or not.
Hell, they might be more dangerous because they are idiots who appeal to idiots.
I love that invariably conversations about Trump all end up acknowledging he is awful, then disagreeing in exactly what kind of awful he is.
More to the point, a whole bunch of evil people a lot smarter than Trump have had 4 years to put together a plan. That one's not just for revenge, though; that's for turning the US into a full-blown dictatorship.
I think a purge is probably pretty far fetched.
Edit; I thought this because I can’t read! Disregard
Perhaps we didn’t learn anything from the rise of Third Reich
You know, you’re right. I may not have been around during those times, but there’s plenty of examples I should have learned from by now (Israel, China x Uyghurs, Germany (WWII), USA (Japanese Internment Camps), etc
There’ll be quiet supporters, loud supporters, secret police (looking at you losers in yellow and black here in the states) all the cards are there really
However I will say that a purge (like the movie?) where everyone is killing each other? Probs not fam.
War isn’t the same as a horror movie trope although they can still be compared of course
I don’t think they are invoking the movie. The term purge means to remove unwanted parts of a whole. The movie just takes it to the extreme as it does its central premise
Yeah I can’t read for shit
Nah. Notice what happened here, it will happen again. The word "purge" has been used as a euphemism for so long that it's simple meaning isn't the first thought anymore.
That programming ran on the moment you read the word, before you even though about the meaning of its inclusion in the context.
This is normal human behavior, and it is exploitable.
You will see Fascism (and the Media reporting throughout fascist times) get really funny with words. You will see fancy small syllable words for all kinds of innocent things, mean other things.
Always question language, it's a tool unto itself.
After what we saw them do during the Trump Presidency? I don't share your optimism.
I don’t
You clearly don’t have Facebook friends who are itching for civil war with the Democrats, or live in a rural area
How many of those people are actually violent and or physical and would carry out those things?
Also depends on your age, everyone’s a tough guy in high school. But regardless, there’s plenty of adults that would do these things (apparently - see Jan 6th) so I guess it wouldn’t be that far off from WW2 stuff, but a purge where everyone kills everyone?
No.
How many citizens of the Weimar republic were violent?
There was some street fighting, marches of early Nazis carrying signs and chanting, some unofficial law enforcement agencies charged with being loyal to the leaders instead of the law... but it's not like it led to... oh wait... well, hang on...
Nice progression "depends on your age" -> "you're probably in high school" -> "yeah you're in high school". I'm older than you.
This kinda undoes your "these people aren't really violent" thesis. The threat of violence already impacts the decisions of election workers and politicians. The question we're debating is simply, how much. Any amount is too much.
So you read the article and disagree that the removal of people insufficiently loyal to Trump in the RNC is going to happen (as already happened with the leadership)?
What? How did you possibly draw that conclusion from what I said
EDIT: because you can’t read Steve! You absolute FOOL
I’m just curious why you think a purge of non-loyalists from the ranks of the RNC is far fetched when that’s what just happened to RNC leadership?
Totally misunderstood this article Jesus Christ my bad dude
Just want to say I really respect that you've owned up to this throughout the thread. Being able to criticize yourself and admit to mistakes is absolutely critical in these discussions.
"Says the Weimar Republic citizen, circa 1933."