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[–] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 48 points 9 months ago (16 children)

The middle class are working class who can't afford to go to school longer, but did so anyway because they were expected to.

[–] SolarMech 28 points 9 months ago (2 children)

In a lot of countries (Canada, Germany, etc.) they can afford to go to school longer because society realizes that it is in it's best interest to make it affordable (free in some cases).

If you believe the US's way is the only way to have a democracy and freedom, you need to learn about other democraties.

[–] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 11 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Not Canada. Tuition in Canada is as expensive as comparable schools in the US. We just don't really have the ultra expensive tier like Harvard.

[–] Ignisnex@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

Tuition in Canada is subsidised by the provincial government for citizens. The cost is also regulated by the provincial government. Those two amounts differ from province to province. For instance, in Alberta when UCP clawed it's way back into power, they decided to cut funding to post secondary, and imposed tuition caps that prevented cost recovery. Our university had to lay off hundreds of people, and we're still not operating within 80% full staff.

A student at full course load can expect to pay about $10K per year, depending on the university, if they are a citizen. Otherwise, foreign students on a visa will be in the $25k-35k bracket. UofA specifically quotes about $33k. I can't speak on what tuition in the states looks like, but I've heard numbers much closer to the latter example with more frequency.

[–] owen@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago

True for university but colleges have pretty good incentives and reasonable costs, also we have high quality colleges imo

[–] Kase@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Tbf to Harvard and the other ivy leagues, as of when I applied a couple years ago (did not get in lmao), my tuition would've been $0. I don't know how much they actually charge, but they do have an above average scholarship program, at least for those coming from the "lower" class.

I'm not saying it's a good school or anything, I really have no idea. That just kinda stuck with me, it seemed really cool.

[–] SolarMech 1 points 9 months ago

It was pretty cheap when I was paying it.

[–] Prunebutt 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

With the way the political landscape is currently looks: I don't think that european democracies shouldn't get too high on their horses with their fascist disasters? Netherlands, anyone? Italy?

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