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In April, the U.S. Supreme Court will hear a major case that could reshape how cities manage homelessness. The legal issue is whether they can fine or arrest people for sleeping outside if there’s no shelter available. The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals has deemed this cruel and unusual punishment, and this case is a pivotal challenge to that ruling.

The high court declined to take up a similar case in 2019. But since then, homelessness rates have climbed relentlessly. Street encampments have grown larger and have expanded to new places, igniting intense backlash from residents and businesses. Homelessness and the lack of affordable housing that’s helping to drive it have become key issues for many voters.

The case, Grants Pass v. Johnson, could have dramatic implications for the record number of people living in tents and cars across the United States.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 74 points 9 months ago (24 children)

Oh good. With this SCOTUS, I assume they'll declare it open hunting season on homeless people.

I fucking hate it. I mean read this shit-

The legal issue is whether they can fine or arrest people for sleeping outside if there’s no shelter available.

FINE people who can't even afford a home when they have NO CHOICE but to sleep outside. And this even reaches SCOTUS? It wasn't immediately laughed out of court? Not in America.

I live some distance out of town near a highway. I have to drive over a small bridge to get into town. The bridge is still not in town, there's farm fields next to it. But there's a sign next to the bridge, in English and Spanish, that says 'no trespassing.' To be clear, this isn't some person putting it on their land, this is an official county government sign. And yes, before the sign went up, people were sleeping under there.

These people have nowhere to go. You can't even argue that they're wanted as bodies for the industrial prison system, because they usually aren't arrested, just chased off. And apparently given fines they can't afford now.

I honestly have no idea what cities and counties expect these people to do.

[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 65 points 9 months ago (8 children)

I honestly have no idea what cities and counties expect these people to do.

Die.

They expect us to die.

I spent half of my 20s homeless in Canada and was outright told by a cop that he would have preferred to come deal with my dead body. "Why don't you kill yourself? Make my life a lot easier so I wouldn't have to come and tell your lazy ass to move and get a fucking job. Get out of here. If I see you back here again then my boots won't and might walk into you."

Most cops were spiteful and vindictive but wouldn't outright say anything like he did. Most of the time I would ask for help. Like where should I go? Always afraid. Always nervous. I didn't want to be homeless. I was terrified. I wanted to be okay again. But everytime I asked for help they would shrug and say "That's not my job." Meanwhile the people whose job it would be? They're not funded.

They just want us to die.

[–] thragtacular@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago

That's what a baseball bat and dumpster are for.

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