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[–] admiralteal@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

During the debate on Wednesday, the members of parliament in the camp of President Emmanuel Macron inserted an amendment limiting the use of remote spying to “when justified by the nature and seriousness of the crime” and “for a strictly proportional duration.” They noted that a judge must approve any use of the provision, while the total duration of the surveillance cannot exceed six months.

They said sensitive professions, including doctors, journalists, lawyers, judges and MPs, would not be legitimate targets.

I don't see any here over whether this is technically possible even if it is allowed -- I suspect not. How is the French warrant process, in general? Do they require probable cause and limited scopes?

[–] kinsnik@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the famous french motto of "the law applies differently to different people", right?

[–] vimdiesel@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

That’s a general principle in all countries, there are just various shades of it. Also you can count on police to use it illegally knowing that although they won’t be able to use it as evidence in court they can still use it to bust some heads and look for leads

[–] BaconIsAVeg@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

Also, those statements appear to conflict. Why are they automatically excluding 'sensitive professions' yet stating 'it depends on the seriousness of the crime'?

[–] livingina@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago
[–] Neato@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Wouldn't Apple just tell the French police to go fuck themselves?

[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

DROPOUTJEEP .... "A software implant for the Apple iPhone that utilizes modular mission applications to provide specific SIGINT functionality. This functionality includes the ability to remotely push/pull files from the device. SMS retrieval, contact list retrieval, voicemail, geolocation, hot mic, camera capture, cell tower location, etc. Command, control and data exfiltration can occur over SMS messaging or a GPRS data connection. All communications with the implant will be covert and encrypted."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANT_catalog

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lustre_(treaty)

[–] Eidolon_Alpha@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

JFC.. that's dystopian. A rooted android with a custom rom (shoutout GrapheneOS) can disable the GPRS connection, then could rely on dns filtered, firewalled, and VPN'd WiFi networks to make calls and texts.

What's shitty tho is the average person likely won't even care and will accept spyware on their device as the new normal. That just makes me sad tbh.

[–] icydefiance@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I can't see why they would. Apple doesn't care about you, but they probably do care about retaliation from the French government.