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[–] chillhelm@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Inconveniencing oil execs achieves absolutely nothing. You will never change someone's opinion whose livelyhood depends on holding that opinion. The climate crisis will not be confronted by oil execs and any meaningful measures will not have their support. Protesting them is a waste of time.

The only way to achieve anything is to increase the immediate right-now cost of doing nothing over the cost of doing something. The cost in annoyance, money, time and for the people that can be persuaded, ie. the general public.

[–] Methylman@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok - so one could say a 'goal' per se is decreasing attendance at events like this with the hope that it causes a change ? I can get behind that and believe that's a rational reason to protest.

If all that's true then my only real complaint is Just Stop Oil isn't getting THAT message across effectively

[–] sudo@lemmy.fmhy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You're really missing the point. Nobody would say "the 'goal' per se is decreasing attendance to events like this".

They did exactly what they set out to do. Make a public spectacle that people write news stories on and then the public talks about it. Normalizing discourses of these issues and drawing more attention and support to addressing them.

People who are already of the corporate lapdog mindset that any inconvenience to them about social, political, and environmental issues should just go away won't have their minds changed. But nobody wants to change their minds, they understand these people won't change.

But young people especially will be drawn to support causes and invoke change when they are constantly reminded that their future is being destroyed around them, instead of just buying into distractions and ignoring it all.

[–] Methylman@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Make a public spectacle that people write news stories on and then the public talks about it.

See this is where I disagree.. if all they want is publicity then start a website or buy ads on tv.

If they want to make a difference then take a page from the indigenous groups blocking logging roads and railroad tracks across Canada when necessary