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[–] Thteven@lemmy.world 87 points 9 months ago (4 children)

We weren't allowed to have him, some rich people would have slightly less money.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 23 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Who do I vote for so rich people can have a lot less money?

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

That's the fun part. You can't. They have had studies since the '70s that show that if they'd pay everyone a thriving wage, they'd be even richer than they are. Funny thing, when the working class has disposable income we buy shit. They are no longer interested in their net worth. The new high score is how many people they can kill with needless suffering before we realize that scarcity actually disappeared in the '70s, and everyone should be living their best life, and we decide to kill them back.

[–] TheBest@midwest.social 11 points 9 months ago

Ohhh fuck thats right I forgot my oligarchal overloads for a minute

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

They'd actually have more money. They've had studies since the mid '70s that proved that if they'd just pay everyone a thriving wage, they would be richer than they are. This makes perfect sense when you realize that the entire system is designed to funnel money up to them.

Cruelty is the point. They aren't going for the high score of net worth, or bank account numbers. They are going for a literal body count. They're intentionally causing needless suffering, because they know we passed the point of scarcity in the '70s, so once we finally fix this shit no human, or animal that we interact with, will needlessly suffer ever again. They are intentionally trying to destroy the climate so they can keep their power, and continue needless human suffering.

You're right in the first part, but their motivation is power. Money is just a very good way to obtain power. Cruelty isn't the point, it's just the fastest way to get money and thus power.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't know about that, there isn't much of a point to it. I understand the idea of keeping the poors poor so they need to work. I get the idea of greed blinding them to the concept that higher wages = more money to buy their products, but I never understand the argument of evil for the sake of evil.

Those people exist, but not in any number that should have a visible affect on our society. I think it's more about blind greed and power hungry people.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

There are only ≈2000 billionaires. That's a small enough percentage of the population. Maybe not all of them are straight up evil, but enough are that they have set up the system to perpetuate needless suffering. We also have studies that prove that one harmful billionaire will cause more damage than 10 beneficent billionaires can clean up.

[–] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sanders lost by over 1000 delegates or around ~3,700,000 out of ~30,000,000 total voters.

He lost pretty heavily in most populous states.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_of_the_2016_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries

[–] Thteven@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm aware of the results. Are you aware of super delegates and how they skewed the reporting? Many people were discouraged from even voting because the polls showed Hillary with a commanding lead before the public voting even began. The DNC pushed Hillary through because they felt it was "her turn". Idk about anyone else but I felt completely disenfranchised by their actions during those primaries.

[–] marth_21@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They also fought pretty hard against giving Bernie any screen time or any attention to keep it all on Hillary. I felt that the DNC decided who it was going to be before he even had a chance.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 4 points 9 months ago

What do you mean?? Don't you remember as soon as he seemed to have a lead every supposed "lIbErAl MeDiA" propaganda outlet ran with "Bernie loves Castro!" "Bernie said a nice thing about Cuba! Communism!! Communism!!! Beeee afraiddddd!!"