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Hi buddy, I would just like to remind you that you started this by saying that I said Trump is better than Biden.
Fuck Trump fuck Biden fuck Israel fuck Hamas
Do you know what they all have in common? They’re all lying sack of shit who don’t care when innocent Palestinians or Israelis die.
This war is great for every one of them, so fuck them all.
The only way we win this is when it stops.
Trump says he wants to do kill them all, Biden is doing it, so is Hamas, so is Israel.
Don’t think I’m saying Trump is better than Biden I’m saying they’re both fucking horrible.
They are the only two people who, barring unforeseen circumstances, have a chance at being president. Voting for anyone else will not change anything about Democrats or Republicans or make a third party viable as proven by both Ross Perot and Ralph Nader.
So I'm voting for the one with the proven track record of not oppressing people like my daughter. And that does, in fact, make him better than Trump.
If you disagree, then I will maintain my claim that you don't give a shit about queer people.
Friend I live in small town redneck as fuck Missouri where my daughters can’t even get an abortion or have books about them and their girlfriends “shock” I know, about themselves.
Y’know what they have? A support system in their family that makes damn sure that they know what their worth is.
Amazingly enough they are happy, have friends and respect given to them.
Even here where the fucking white dudes in suits are running from the mob of “patriots” I think dumb fuck Hawley said after his wittle feetsies got him away from them as quick as they could, there are houses with equality and rainbow signs.
These fucking kids are already active and waiting out the timer to change the world.
These other kids don’t get that chance, they won’t get the chance to make a difference where they live.
Instead both sides just use them as fucking ammunition.
Now instead of being able to have the chance to grow together and change things they will be used as ammunition again to inspire more people to join the fucking revolution against Israel.
So yeah, I have seen how people band together even when under attack from authority, and how it can grow to change the world.
But you have to be alive to do it.
None of that addresses what I said. Not one word.
So I guess I will maintain what I said about you not giving a shit about queer people.
And you gave me some more evidence for it:
Not "my house." Nope. "There are houses."
Because someone who doesn't give a shit about queer people wouldn't put a pride flag on their own house.
Bitch please. I also don’t have a Ukrainian flag a Palestinian flag or an upside down American flag.
Still haven't addressed a word of what I said.
All you are doing is proving that you don't give a shit about queer people.
Ok let me know what else you decide I said
I didn't decide you said anything. I'm waiting for you to address what I wrote.
Yes gay people deserve every right the rest of us do.
I don’t disagree with that. I don’t want trump to win.
I could change sides and go vote for him, but I’m not.
Biden sucks, he’s enabling genocidal actions and the worst he has to say is that it’s over the top.
Fuck him and fuck trump.
If you want to help them then do, I won’t.
Anything else?
You do disagree with that and you do want Trump to win. Because you won't vote for the only other viable candidate in this election.
You do not give a shit about queer people because you are fine with allowing Trump to win. You know that it's either Trump or Biden. You know that there's close to a 50/50 chance it will be Trump.
You just don't care that is a very strong chance.
Because you don't care about queer people.
And when they get marched into camps, I doubt you will be the first to speak up.
Ok.
Didn't think you were brave or honest enough to address what I said.
What more do you think I need to say?
We disagree, I think human life is more important, you disagree.
I refuse to support genocide, you don’t.
Like I thought. Too cowardly and too dishonest to address my long post.
What fucking long post?
I’m sure exist, but do you know how many different conversations? I’m having right now.
Me and you were having like three different conversations at the time.
Be more specific
I don't know why you can't just scroll up, but sure. I'll repaste it. I doubt you'll answer it substantively this time either:
Your response:
The reason that was your response?
You don't care about queer people and you won't complain if Trump's people march them into camps.
I don’t have one to that because I already answered it.
We disagree on the most important issue.
You think it is gay rights, I think it is human life.
I’m not responsible for your candidate not being good enough.
You can vote for gay rights, I can choose not to vote for the support of genocide.
If I did want trump to win I would vote for him.
It’s not that I don’t care, it’s that I care more about something else.
It would be like asking you to vote for a candidate who would say fuck gay rights, but that would immediately stop the war or a candidate who just said fuck gay rights.
Would you do that?
If my options are vote for genocide either way or don’t vote… I mean it’s pretty simple to
You should probably look up the definition of genocide and then stop using it incorrect in your arguments.
You mean the systematic killing, humiliation, starvation, removing power and water, after segregating and then removing a group of people that you refer to as animals from their home while talking about how you need complete control for your security, while allowing your citizens to drive even more people from their homes?
Thank you, but I prefer it my way.
That’s just war. It’s horrific, and disgusting what’s being done there- but It’s the same as what’s happening in Ukraine, and the same that’s happened in any country that’s ever been invaded in the history of this planet. Why are you not crying about the genocide in Ukraine? Do you place your hand on your heart in remembrance of the great genocide in Vietnam? What about the genocide during the Falklands War? It’s war- It’s gross…
But not everything is genocide.
Look, I get that it’s a fun little catchy sound-bite you love to toss around, and sure… it makes it look like you know what you’re talking about… but everyone that actually knows what’s going on- is subscribed to reality, and has payed attention since graduating high school, knows that what is happening in Palestine is not- by definition…. Genocide.
For the record- the U.N. hasn’t even declared it genocide, but a bunch of random people on the internet get to say it is because ….. reasons?
Israel is attacking Gaza because of territorial displacement. This shit goes back to the late 19th century man. It’s incredibly nuanced. But again… NOT GENOCIDE.
And while I fully understand that there’s no chance in hell I’m changing your mind, maybe this response will serve as a fresh and logical take to anyone still riding the fence that might be reading along.
Fine if you want to be pedantic.
The supporting of genocidal actions.
Feel better about yourself now?
it's a genocide regardless of what the UN says
You’ve already been reported. Too late.
maybe the admins will finally do something about your conduct
it is a genocide
Go away, stalker!
that's an incredible accusation.
the block button is on the upper right of this page
https://lemmy.ca/u/bigmouthcommie@kolektiva.social
Yes, you did answer it. You answered it in the affirmative that you don't care about queer people and won't speak up when they're marched into camps.
Claiming you don't support genocide is a lie. You're fine with genocide- if it's people who are queer.
just report the trolling and move on. they clearly stopped engaging in good faith (if they ever were).
Oh the irony!!
was this a lie?
https://lemmy.ca/comment/7281701
Just thought it was funny seeing you talk about reporting a troll. When that’s all you do here is bait people so you can report them. I mean… willful ignorance and being aggressively obtuse in the face of real-world facts and empirical information is your bread and butter and you’re incredibly successful at what you do…
I’m just here make others aware of what you do here. Nothing insulting, no incivility…. Just the truth.
whatever your opinion of me, please stop stalking me.
I am never going to change their mind, I don’t see mine changing either, we both know that and are just leaving it for future viewers to maybe change their minds.
They are a decent person, we even agree on many things.
We just vehemently disagree on a few things.
There is kind of like a Yin-Yang balance to it. Lol
Your words mean nothing.
Ok?
You’re going to have to tell me what you disagree with here.
This is so far in the thread that everyone is a gray line