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An Ontario brewery that hosted Prime Minister Justin Trudeau this week says it’s been inundated with hundreds of hateful messages since then.

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[–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 20 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

The argument is so normalized in those 'free speech' conservative spaces / social media circles that sometimes it bubbles into the physical world as stickers being handed out at oil company functions.

https://www.huffpost.com/archive/au/entry/greta-thunberg-sticker-canada-oil_au_5e5c5c2ac5b6450a30c0da9b

Oh, this story is from when she was a minor. The sticker is not custom either, it's taken straight from a sexually abusive meme about her that I will not find and share here, but that I have seen.

If you want to know the general meme format, click through the spoiler tag

test spoiler

it's angry still a minor in pigtails Greta with a caption like "how dare you" - > some sexually explicit still frame from a porn where a young woman in pig tails is being taken roughly from behind - > Still a minor Greta smiling with a caption like "what climate change"

It's gross and that's just one of the tamer things they create and circulate.

[–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Oh, and the "I'll fix her with my dick" attitude and violence is something lesbians, bisexual and trans people are already very familiar with, unfortunately.

[–] ZC3rr0r@lemmy.ca 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Yeah, I'd heard that bullshit before, but at least there's at least some relationship between sex and sexual preference/orientation/expression. Not saying I'm agreeing or condoning that sort of thinking, but I can say least somewhat connect the caveman dots there.

I'm just stuck on how is raping someone going to make them be okay with a climate apocalypse. I can't logically tie those two things together, and I'm actually kind of scared of the mental gymnastics required to get to this point.

I'm probably overthinking it to a level beyond the amount of thought the people that came up with it put into their position though.

[–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

It's an outward expression of Conservative hierarchical values (I rant about this too much maybe..). Conservatives conserve the traditional hierarchies of society, for example God over man, men over women, straight over lgb, white over PoC, self over society, rich over poor etc. For them, people listening to Greta represents a perversion of the traditional hierarchy. Why would they listen to a young woman, advising the betterment of society? She's not an older man, she's not saying get rich and think of yourself, she occupies a low spot in multiple hierarchies so she must be wrong. But it isn't enough for her to be wrong, she needs to be dominated because that's how hierarchies work, the higher levels dominate the lower. Sexual violence is one of the classic forms of human dominance, so they don't imagine beating her in an argument, they imagine raping her into submission instead.

[–] ZC3rr0r@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Right. So it's less "rape her until she's happy about climate change" and more "rape her so she shuts up and knows her place"?

Because that does make sense to me, it's just an expression of violence against those you disagree with.

They're not intent on "fixing" her like those weirdos who think you can "fix" LGBTQ people with rape, but good old misogyny expressed through threats of sexual violence.

Man, now that I wrote that out it's even more depressing.

[–] Grimpen@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 months ago

I'm pretty sure that the people that want to "fix" LGBTQ people with violence don't differentiate between being forced to submit and be silent versus actually being converted/fixed/whatever. It doesn't matter if you are satisfied with your role in the hierarchy, only that you submit.

[–] Holyginz@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

They think that somehow if they rape her it will magically make them better than her and that she will submit and agree she was wrong. It's a mentality only the truly weak have.

[–] frunch@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Somehow, conservatives still manage to surprise me once in a while. I'd say this is a new low but i would probably be way off