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[–] Nougat@kbin.social 123 points 1 year ago (17 children)

If Meta is running a fediverse instance, they're doing it for money. Sure, I might be able to block Meta-sourced content from reaching me, but that doesn't prevent me-sourced content from reaching Meta - where they can monetize it.

Show me how to do that, and I'm on it like white on rice.

[–] ninboy@mastodon.social 53 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

@Nougat It doesn’t prevent them now, as they can just easily crawl all of your posts on here because you are posting on a *public instance*. Defederating from them does nothing to make your public content private.

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

@ninboy No, it doesn't make my public content private, but it would display my content alongside everything else that a threads user would see, which would make Meta's product more attractive to threads users. Increased threads userbase means increased ad revenue. Speaking of which, I'm now thinking about how content I created, not on a Meta-operated site, would be (as federation by default intends) displayed next to Meta advertising on their instance. My ability to prevent me-sourced content from reaching Meta's instance prevents me-sourced content from displaying next to advertisement I don't want it to be displayed next to.

[–] ninboy@mastodon.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@Nougat that makes sense, thanks for elaborating on your points. I guess as soon as we put any content out there we can’t prevent screenshots going viral on any context.

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

@ninboy Sure, you're not going to close that "analog hole," but in a case like that, the audience is aware that the content isn't from the site they're on. Me- (and you- and everyone-)sourced content appearing on a Meta site as though it was Meta content would carry some things to have real concerns about.

Of course, this is all really new(ish), so it's possible that a future internet audience will have a better awareness of how federation works, and bring that understanding with them while they browse. On the other hand, have you seen people?

Tangent: You tagged me in your original reply, which made me wonder why, and if I should do the same thing. Checking your username, I see you're on from mastodon.social, and here I am via kbin.social. I think this is my first real interplatform conversation like that, and I think it's really cool.

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