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Ah yes, famously apolitical Star Trek (cdn.discordapp.com)

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[–] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The use of "woke" and "political" in this hypercontextualist style is so vague as to border on non-expression.

The use of "woke" is vague?

Unfathomable, no way anyone would use the term "woke" in a vague way, especially not a presidental candidate.

Edit: Or here -- https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/star-trek-starship-enterprise-democrat-woke-david-marcus

[–] half@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're completely missing the more useful point. The right says "woke and political," implicitly referencing the complex change I described above. The left quotes the right saying "woke and political" as an implicit dismissal of civil rights, diversity, representation, etc. Both of these lazy-ass anachronisms suck big huge elephant dicks and ruin the political discourse in the media.

[–] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The right says "woke and political," implicitly referencing the complex change I described above.

You are entirely making that up.

Here are 200+ different things that are "woke" according to Fox: https://www.mediamatters.org/fox-news/200-things-fox-news-has-labeled-woke

[–] half@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don't think the output of a media outlet is a useful handle on what individuals mean when they use politicized terms. To put it another way, if you're going to quote Fox you should also quote HuffPo.

[–] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a huge number of examples of that right wing individuals using "woke" in a vague way.

Show me one example of a right wing individual using "woke" in a specific way.

[–] half@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You're misreading me and moving the goalposts. There is a media trend which can be (very poorly) described as "woke and political." One of the reasons why people who are bothered by this trend should refrain from using this code/shorthand is that it allows other people to project hate onto it, which is, in my view, equally shitty. Outlets like Fox deliberately court this behavior because it drives engagement. You shared their viral content for them. I wonder if you even viewed one of their ads on the way.

[–] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'll even help you out: here is a time when a right wing individual specifically defined "woke":

https://www.fox13news.com/news/what-does-woke-mean-gov-desantis-officials-answer-during-andrew-warren-trial

"To me, it means someone who believes that there are systemic injustices in the criminal justice system, and on that basis they can decline to fully enforce and uphold the law,"

There is nothing to do with the writing quality of any TV show in there.

[–] nantsuu@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

But even that arbitrary definition doesn't seem to encapsulate other things commonly described as woke that are not systemic injustices, like the existence of trans people or climate change.

[–] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah I'm browsing the fediverse but I don't know how to install AdBlock on my browser.

"woke" has always been vague, on purpose. It's so you can retcon any "implicit" meaning you want, as you tried to.

Right wingers don't use "woke" in a specific way and we both know it, that's why you can't muster a single example to back up your claim.