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[–] grue@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

If all the red states decided they didn’t want Biden on the ballot, they could decide who would be president before the election even took place.

If a state wanted, it could just decide to let the state legislature pick the electors and not hold a popular vote at all. The US Constitution just says that each state appoints electors "in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct." It's only state laws and state constitutions that create requirements to let the people vote, so a state could repeal those for itself unilaterally.

For example, here's the relevant section of law in Georgia (OCGA § 21-2-10):

At the November election to be held in the year 1964 and every fourth year thereafter, there shall be elected by the electors of this state persons to be known as electors of President and Vice President of the United States and referred to in this chapter as presidential electors, equal in number to the whole number of senators and representatives to which this state may be entitled in the Congress of the United States.

("Electors of this state" means the voting public, while "presidential electors" means the people getting nominated to the Electoral College.)

All GA would have to do is repeal that paragraph and then the General Assembly could pick whatever presidential electors they wanted, public preference be damned (at least until the legislators themselves were up for re-election).

[–] agentsquirrel@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

If a state wanted, it could just decide to let the state legislature pick the electors and not hold a popular vote at all.

I was surprised this wasn't raised as a counterargument by the Colorado attorney when the "one state could determine who's elected" argument was made. (If it was, I missed it.) The justices are worried that states (let's just say it: "red states") could make up some frivolous reason to keep someone off the ballot and disqualify them, but the brutal reality is that they could do it already by screwing with the electors. (Hell, Trump and his co-conspirators tried sending fake electors from some states.) Setting a precedent allowing states to use Section 3 of the 14th Amendment just give states another way to accomplish this. "Oh, Biden tripped walking up to a podium? That's insurrection!"

What's really sad/outrageous is that Trump and the GOP have so terribly warped and perverted the political norms in this country that we have to even consider the possibility of states fabricating frivolous reasons to keep someone off the ballot. We can't keep a 91 felon count indicted insurrectionist, fraudster, and rapist from getting elected and destroying democracy because his friends may avenge him by abusing and misapplying the law in the future. This really sucks.

[–] oxjox@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago

This is a very interesting point.