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Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre says repeat car thieves should not be allowed to serve their sentence 'in their living room watching Netflix.'

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[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I mean, there should be punishment delivered before you even get to stealing your third car. Even if you down real bad you should still be able to afford bus fare before justifying theft. I'm not sure about mandatory minimum sentences but repeat offenders shouldn't just be allowed to walk free stealing as many cars as they want.

[–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They don't steal the car for themselves, it's organized crime and they ship the cars overseas to where they are hard to impossible to track and return. We want to stop this we need to stop organized crime, get the people at the top instead of the people on the street. We need to better support the people at street level so they don't fall in with organized crime to begin with.

CBC did some tracking of stolen cars, many ship out of Montreal and end up in various African countries. Here is a good video on it.

https://youtu.be/T5XJrJTG-BQ?si=ifonIDy7FBZLv-tn

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So in between we just let the lower level thieves keep stealing cars? We can focus on getting the higher ups while still dealing with car theives

[–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 5 points 9 months ago

There is a near unending supply of people that can be coerced or incentivized into car theft. There is, however, not a near unending supply of police, judicial and corrective resources. We really do need to make choices, and we should make the most effective ones.

You can attack the street level but it won't make a dent in the problem, you will not be able to dissinsentivize theft with abstract ideas of future punishment for people who have concrete current problems of gang coercion or poverty.

So I suppose if you are interested in simply punishing a never-ending lineup of street level actors at ever growing expense to the country then sure, we can "deal with car thieves".