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[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

so for most enlisted folks, you have a choice of career paths: recruiting, or drill instructor. both are exceptionally stressful in different ways, but recruiting in this age has got to be the harder one. I'm not going to apologize for dickhead behavior and shitty recruiters, they are certainly out there, but for the most part I just feel bad because they will never meet their numbers in this economy and it often hurts their careers.

[–] zaph@sh.itjust.works 24 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Seen many good marines not make it back from recruiting duty. Most people don't sleep well at night after lying to a child.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

yeah it fucks people up; and so does drill instructing - being on post at 3a to see make sure the recruits get to ranges by sunup, long long long hours that don't give two fucks about your kid's recital or timmy's ball game.... honestly rough work.

[–] zaph@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 months ago

I always found it extremely fucked up that you're allowed to do di duty with dependents. I don't really mean the volunteers, they can do what they want. The voluntold with dependents are the ones I felt bad for.

[–] crackajack@reddthat.com 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Not to simp for the US military and dismiss the unnecessary lives lost, but I heard most people who join the military opt for non-combat support role. That way, they are physically and mentally safe but get the free education perk.

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 19 points 9 months ago

Depending on the environment, that may not mean shit. I killed it on the ASVAB and took a "hide out in my storage container and get a killer bonus" gig then immediately out of training got pulled for a team to "Road Trip Iraq" in a desperate bid for people to stop breaking million dollar systems.

Got taken out by an IED in less than 6 months and put out due to injuries. Bright side I'm chillin at 36 on a 100% disability payment and a sub $500 mortgage.

[–] YaksDC@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Former Navy here. You can opt for anything want but it doesn't mean squat if they want to send you somewhere.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

People just up and quit after years of being enlisted because the job hurts?

[–] zaph@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Slight understatement but the basic jist is there

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago
[–] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 23 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I don't feel bad if my local crack dealers don't sell as much crack as they wanted to, I don't feel bad if my local kidnappers fail to steal as many children as they'd hoped, and I don't feel bad for the local military recruiters not making their recruitment numbers.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

you do you man. most everyone I knew in the mil was there for school and vet benefits, not because we wanted to murder innocent people in far-off lands. looking at the hellscape out there, it's not an incomprehensible choice for people with very limited options, aka, lack of trust funds.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 20 points 9 months ago

Yes, that is the exact tool they use to get those people.

Make life as miserable, but allow the military to get all the benefits you should have been getting in the first place.

You want a good life, get a degree! Aww, can't pay for school because we made it expensive? Now you will be forced to join or be bankrupt until your 50s! Tough choice