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[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 16 points 9 months ago (3 children)

That would be the most Dem thing Dems have ever done. Play games and get Haley elected when Biden would have just cruised over trump.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 37 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I don't suspect Biden will just cruise over Trump. Look at the polls, Trump leads in swing states. I hope Biden can win, but it won't be easy.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago

Don't mention polling. Centrists hate it because it indicates that their constant shift rightward has become unpopular.

[–] Alto@kbin.social 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Actual results since roe was overturned have been ~+9 towards dem/dem supported policies than polling has said. I still have hope.

[–] Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 9 months ago
[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

If he's lost the Muslim vote, hopefully he has, he's gonna lose by enormous numbers. The numbers from 2020 support this.

Georgia won by 11k votes - has 120k Muslims Arizona won by 10k votes has 109k Muslims Wisconsin won by 20k votes - has 68k Muslims Pennsylvania won by 80k votes has 150k Muslims Michigan won by 150k votes - has 241k Muslims

[–] aew360@lemm.ee 15 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Haley isn’t getting elected. She has virtually no path towards the GOP nomination. If she did, MAGATs aren’t going to vote for her unless he was on the ballot, and then if she did put him on the ballot, she’ll lose the moderate votes.

Trump has a chance to cause chaos by losing another general election. He could also do even more damage by winning another general election. Haley, if she somehow won the primary and general, would be so much less destructive.

So yeah, voting for Haley in the primary is the fucking move and it’s why I didn’t vote for Biden in the SC primary.

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Nikki Haley's Sudden Wealth Rooted in Weapons Industry, Pro-War Advocacy Network.

The former U.N. ambassador went from virtually no savings in 2017 to a small fortune in part from defense contracting and war advocacy ties.

https://www.leefang.com/p/nikki-haleys-sudden-wealth-rooted

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Look, no Democrat is saying she'd be great or even close to being better than Biden.

But she'd certainly be better than Trump. And if she can split the Republican votes in the general election, even better.

[–] fadingembers@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

SHE HAS THE SAME FASCIST POLICY POSITIONS AS TRUMP. THEY'RE EFFECTIVELY THE SAME CANDIDATE

[–] TwentySeven@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

When Haley tries to overthrow the government, I'll say she's as bad as Trump. Until that happens, I say Trump is worse.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe -4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

No, she wouldn't be. Trump at least has value from an accelerationist POV, Haley's going to do all things Trump would but as less of a publicly shitposting moron.

[–] aew360@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don’t care if she sucks. She won’t beat Trump in the end. The longer she stays in the race, the more angry he’s gonna get at his own party

[–] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

People said the exact same shit about trump in 2016 and tried to do the same meta gaming shit you're trying to do, and look how that turned out. Ffs just admit you don't know what the fuck you're doing and vote like a normal person instead of big braining us into fascism again

[–] aew360@lemm.ee -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Lmfao. Haley won’t be a fascist. The fascist will be a fascist. You don’t have to pretend like you know what you’re talking about

[–] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Liberals, the only people who will vote and run ads for the far right and then blame everyone else when democrats lose the election 🙃

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

She wins the primary if SCOTUS rules that Trump is an insurrectionist, and she polls well against Biden precisely because she appeals to "enlightened centrists."

The question is not whether Trump should be barred as insurrectionist. The question is what candidate the leash holders of certain Justices want.

[–] aew360@lemm.ee -1 points 9 months ago

I have a very hard time seeing Trump supporters coming around to vote for her when he’s painted her as a part of the deep state

[–] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Jesus Christ when are you gonna learn that these stupid 4d chess moves don't fucking work? You're gonna be literally supporting republicans, and when that gets a republican in office again you're probably gonna blame 3rd party voters and leftists and young people and Russia and literally everyone other than yourself for republicans winning. This shit backfires all the time, don't fuck us all over with this "big brain" bullshit again please

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 0 points 9 months ago

seriously. i have a policy that i only vote for someone if i want them to have the office (i know, i'm a fucking lunatic).

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Don’t be fucking stupid. Trump is an existential threat to the Republic and Biden is unpopular.

[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure that I said otherwise.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

You’re speculating Biden cruising over Trump. wtf.