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[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

She didn't say anything about his campaign. If we're talking about him having dementia, which is what this whole thing is about, then Jil is probably telling her to get help with that. But the reality is that Jil probably doesn't care and this is just an insult.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I just don't understand how asking Ivanka to "do something FFS" is either an insult or a request for medical help. Neither of those claims make any sense to me.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I just don’t understand how asking Ivanka to “do something FFS” is either an insult or a request for medical help.

The whole thing is about him having dementia. It's the context. How can that not make sense? How does making up it being about the campaign make more sense?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

She didn't say anything about dementia. If she wanted to insult him about having dementia, why didn't she mention the dementia?

It makes more sense for it being about the campaign because, again, she is begging Ivanka to help Trump. It doesn't matter if she says "politics aside." Only a Trump supporter would want that rapist seditious wannabe dictator to get help. Because helping him helps him win. That should be blatantly obvious.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If she wanted to insult him about having dementia, why didn’t she mention the dementia?

If she wanted to help his campaign, why didn't she mention the campaign? We're both inferring what she was referring to, so the double-edged nature of this question should be patently obvious. I'm a little shocked it was even asked.

It makes more sense for it being about the campaign because, again, she is begging Ivanka to help Trump.

This is included as an example in an article that starts with "Donald Trump on Saturday was hit with an avalanche of criticism." The author of the article pretty clearly agrees with me. Additionally, you are ignoring the "politics aside" part of the comment which strongly implies there is a differing of politics here that Jil wants to transcend. You are required to infer both the context and the content of the post itself for your position to be true, so it certainly does not make more sense.

Because helping him helps him win.

It's facetious. She doesn't expect it to happen.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

We’re both inferring what she was referring to

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It’s facetious. She doesn’t expect it to happen.

How can you state that as if it is fact after saying the above?

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I figured it was safe from the context that I wouldn't have to repeat what we were talking about every time. But I guess I should have seen super pedanticism coming in this debate, rather than working together to try and get to the truth.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You seem to believe you already know the truth.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yes, obviously I do. Which is why I took a position. The fact that you nit-picked my language, and are now trying to make this about me, makes it pretty clear your goal is simply to get a win at this point.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

I see, you know the truth but I can only infer things and I am definitely wrong but am defending my position because I want to "get a win."

Interesting.