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[–] uis@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The copyright troll known as "publisher" just will pocket all money you think you paid to people who made the game.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Option one: pay for game, some money goes to publisher, some goes to creators

Option two: pirate game, no money goes to anyone

Which one helps the creators?

[–] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Option three: Donate to creator or buy something directly from them to help offset the cost of pirating.

Pirates: Nah I'm good fam. I just want free shit because I'm too poor and don't get paid enough.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

A donation or purchasing something else doesn't legally or morally entitle you to owning an unrelated product made by the creator though...

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I disagree. Consumer gets game, creator gets paid. Seems pretty cut and dried to me.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Unless the creator gives you their approval, it's a donation that you can't assume gives you the right to their product.

It's funny the mental gymnastic you guys will do to justify your choices and make you feel like you're morally right.

By the way, I don't believe for one second that you've sent donations to all the creators of which you've pirated content.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You're equating the law with morality. They differ sometimes.

And yes, personally as soon as I had the money I purchased (or rather leased) everything I pirated and used past a standard trial period. Except for a few indie albums whose creators I couldn't find. Except for age of empires, now I think if it. I'll go buy it tonight.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Even from a moral point of view, would you work for your employer if they told you "You won't get a salary but I promise that when things are financially better in a few years I will pay you back!" and a fairly substantial % of employers would do that but in the end only a minority would keep their promise?

Sounds nice, right?

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

Literally an internship

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

it's immoral to prevent people from sharing tools or stories or songs or skills. i'm entitled to enjoy whatever someone wants to share with me.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

No you're not if it's infringing on someone's copyright and you would agree with me if you ever created something you were trying to sell to make a living.

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

copyright is an immoral government-enforced monopoly.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Immoral?

How do creatives make money if everyone is free to copy their work?

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

by selling it or taking commissions.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They're already doing it, you keep saying it's ok not to compensate them for their work and to simply share it by copying the files without any involvement with the original creator.

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

yes. this isn't a contradiction at all.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Ok, so you're either an idiot or a troll.

Goodbye

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago

I’ve been dealing with this kid for a while and I can tell you from that experience-

They’re both.

[–] uis@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

some goes to creators

You wish. https://dashfight.com/news/modus-games-lays-off-mane-6-developers-4490

Which one helps the creators?

Let's ask them

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

...

You realise that the screenshot you shared tells you to buy from real platforms first and foremost?

[–] jimbo@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You realize that the developers all got paid before the game was even released, right? They were getting paychecks the whole time.

[–] uis@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Game wasn't complete.

For downvoters here: they still did not deliver everything that was promised during crowdfunding campaign. And with scale of layoffs I'm not sure they can.

[–] ParsnipWitch@feddit.de 2 points 9 months ago

So I hope you check beforehand if that's actually the case for the specific product you pirate. What I am seeing is that people just pirate everything because they do not respect the creators. From digital art, to indie works in movies, games and music. People pirate because they have the deeply capitalist mindset that if you can pay less (or nothing) for something you should. Even if that means the person that put in the labour and skills has less because of your behaviour.