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frisomenfogel at 2023-07-05 10:36:45+00:00 ID:
jqqosd6What a tired, false analogy.
Just like prohibition is a tired, false solution to a complex problem which will never be solved by prohibition.
Flutterpiewow at 2023-07-05 10:38:40+00:00 ID:
jqqoxtzThat's the most tired argument of all, "people are going to do it anyway". Same goes for physical violence.
frisomenfogel at 2023-07-05 10:59:53+00:00 ID:
jqqqo6tWell, at least it's an argument grounded in reality while yours is not.
I agree that you should be somewhat protected from my physical violence, but that's not what were talking about, is it? To me your argument sounds more like you should be somewhat protected from self-harm, which would be fine - if the current legislation were reflective of this position, which it is not.
Legalize it, problem solved.
Flutterpiewow at 2023-07-05 11:12:32+00:00 ID:
jqqrr4bLegislation protects individuals from self harm and society from costs associated with cannabis
granistuta at 2023-07-05 12:40:45+00:00 ID:
jqr0cjyHow?
The law does not have a great effect on how many there are that uses cannabis, and we still have costs from the minority that develop problematic use. Yet we don't get any of the income as we don't tax cannabis sales.
We also get the costs of trying to police those who use and those who sell cannabis, and the violence that comes with gangs trying to protect their turf (and all the spiraling revenge killings).
Criminalization is surely a lot more costly than legalization.
frisomenfogel at 2023-07-05 11:22:23+00:00 ID:
jqqsly3If it were so, Sweden would have a comparatively good record on t.ex. overdoses. Do we, really?
On that same premise, do you think we should outlaw sugar, alcohol and nicotine?
Current legislation is more realistically a huge cost, funneling money to black-market gangs and hopeless policing.
Flutterpiewow at 2023-07-05 11:31:56+00:00 ID:
jqqtgrnWeigh it against the cost for harm caused by narcotics, 40bn or so. I do think we should regulate sugar, alcohol and nicotine, but i don't think they're comparable since they're firmly part of our culture - at least sugar and alcohol. Overdoses are outliers, the bulk of this is sick leave/unemployment, therapy, quality of life, social difficulties.