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[–] ChemicalPilgrim@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago (16 children)

You ever been in a room where one psychotic person seems to set the whole tone? That's the world without governments. Anarchy inevitably leads to misery, so let's come up with the best government we can.

[–] sarchar@programming.dev 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Citation needed. I think we'd be fine.

[–] ChemicalPilgrim@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No where on earth has anarchy, the places that have it for a few days spontaneously develop order through gangs, warlords, or the intervention of more stable societies

[–] purplepuppy@links.hackliberty.org -3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This person doesn't know how to search for things on the Internet. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_anarchist_communities You should know that for 95% of huiman existence almost all tribes where anarchist. There is a good youtube channel “What is politics?” that talks about this.

[–] Zoboomafoo 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

He's wrong about "a few days", but that article does not support your case that anarchism works

[–] purplepuppy@links.hackliberty.org -1 points 9 months ago

It supports the case that it can work. I never made an argument that it always works forever. There are failed attempts, but the cause of their failure is also very important. It is often claimed that somehow, internally, anarchism can not work within a country, while usually the reason anarchisam is destroyed is due to outside invasion or interference. It is simply the case, that anarchist are currently outnumbered, mostly due to opinions like this, that it can not work, so we should try it. If we get a critical mass of enough people, it would be the opposite, states would not be able to survive in a majority anarchistic World, as no one would need to surrender themselves to domination by rulers if they can easily find a better alternative.

[–] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] purplepuppy@links.hackliberty.org -3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Why Somalia? Did you read somewhere they were anarchists or did you just assume that both anarchists and Somalians are savages so that they have to be related somehow.

[–] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Nah i mentioned them because they don't have a functioning national government, i.e. anarchy.

[–] purplepuppy@links.hackliberty.org 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No one has a functional state goverment if it's function is to actually help the people. If states function is to keep people in power, and it is, then they are all functional, including Somalian.

[–] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's the thing, no one holds any power on a national level in Somalia.

? A simple wikipedia search shows there is clearly a president of somalia and there is a goverment that is "federal palamentary constitunoal republic". Am I missing something? This is the president of somalia.

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