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[–] Silviecat44@vlemmy.net 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why not support the voice?

[–] Ilandar@aussie.zone 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The 'Progressive No' movement has pretty valid reasons to be against it, though as a non-Indigenous Australian I find it very difficult to consider voting no myself. The fact that I actually get to vote on this is honestly ridiculous, particularly when my vote is worth twice that of someone who it is supposed to be benefiting.

[–] Silviecat44@vlemmy.net 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I mean, the fact that Dutton is supporting No would be enough reason for me to vote Yes

Edit: I am not saying this is the only reason. I very much believe that the first nations peoples should have a Voice

[–] skribe@lemmy.one 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Voting because someone else does or doesn't vote this way or that is sport not politics. I would hope that most people take it far more seriously.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago

You write that like they don't both exist . And anyway, recognising the actions and policies of a political figure as being a polar opposite to your belief system is still a valid call.

[–] billytheid@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago

spite is a powerful motivator.

[–] Longmactoppedup@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago

My guess is the reverse is true also in that Dutton supporters will vote no because he is.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah they keep saying there is a sound progressive case for no, but even Thorpe had a mouthful of nothing when asked to elaborate.

Saying you have reasons that you then won't state isn't the same as an actual argument

[–] billytheid@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago

The simple truth is this is how modern politics works, you take the wins you can and keep scraping and clawing away for more, it's why the desperately avaricious are drawn to it.

[–] Paradoxvoid@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What do you mean by your 'vote is worth twice that of someone who it is supposed to be benefiting'?

Is that in reference to the 'double-majority', where NT and ACT don't count for the 'majority of States' count (because a large number of Aboriginal and Torrest Strait islander people live in the NT)?

[–] Ilandar@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago

Yes, that's correct. I live in SA, so my vote counts towards both majorities. Technically there are more Indigenous Australians living in the states than the territories (according to the ABS), but the NT is where a lot of the remaining Indigenous communities (who government "help" is usually targeted towards) reside.