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No hate for the middle class. I can't help but enjoy the irony of people who thought they had solidarity with capital talking like Ned Ludd all of a sudden.

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[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Middle class absolutely needs to work though. They just aren't complete wage slaves because they have some personal capital to absorb urgent/unplanned expenses and can survive without working for some time. Ultimately they still need to work to survive though

[–] dipshit@lemmy.world -4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The GOP defines the middle class as $400k a year. If they make in excess of that, is it coming from work? Are they truly part of the working class living paycheck to paycheck at $400k a year? I don’t think so, but hey who knows.

[–] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Working class isn't defined by being poor and middle class isn't defined by not having to live paycheck to paycheck. Middle class in general is pretty much a made up difference to to split the working class.

Working class is very easily defined. If you have to work for a living you're in the working class. It doesn't matter if you make 40k, 400k or 4 million as long as it's coming from your labor. Capitalists don't have to work, their capital makes them money and they can live off the labor of their workers. If you make 400k regardless of your contribution, then you're not working class.

[–] dipshit@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

TIL donald trump is part of the “working class”

[–] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And what work does he do that's a necessity for his livelyhood?

[–] dipshit@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sexually assaulting women and making rotten steaks I guess.

[–] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And who is paying him to do that?

[–] dipshit@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well, first of all I seriously doubt he himself is making steaks and I doubt he lives solely on the supposed money people pay him to sexually assault people. Most likely his money comes from his real-estate business which means he doesn't need to work to live and thus is not a worker.

[–] dipshit@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Hmm, I guess I’m going to need to explain to you that I don’t think a person can actually make money via sexually assaulting others.

But seeing the instance you’re on I feel like I might also need to explain that Donald trump isn’t a very rich guy actually.

A better explaination for how he got his money would be “scamming” and “running businesses to the ground and leeching off the US government.”

[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So, according to the GOP, less than 12% of the US population is middle class (much less actually, that statistic is apparently for people making more than 200K a year)

[–] dipshit@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

The embattled “middle class”. We need to support them. Something something trickle down.