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Alabama condemned for nitrogen gas execution: ‘They intended to torture him’
(www.theguardian.com)
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So if I'm sentenced to 20 years for first degree murder, is the fear and terror I feel over losing my freedom the state torturing me?
What about if my doctor's office refuses to give me my diagnosis over the phone on a Friday, and tells me I have to wait for an office appointment on Monday. Is that torture? Should I file a legal complaint or try to get charges pressed?
You're conflating internal agony and anticipatory fear, with actual externally applied methods of torture.
I understand what point you're trying to make, but words have meaning and if everything is torture, then how bad can torture really be?
None of those are knowing for certain you will die while it is happening.
If you redefine torture into any form of discomfort sure. But that is not what the word means.
"the action or practice of inflicting severe pain or suffering on someone as a punishment or in order to force them to do or say something."
So solitary is for sure torture. Normal prison shouldn't be but can for sure be in some cases. It's only slightly better than the corporeal punishments (lashes, stockade) of old in my opinion.
How would actually killing someone, with the person being killed being fully aware that it happens, as it happens. Not be "externally applied methods of torture"? Asphyxiation has been used as a method of torture for millennia.
You realize that my questions were rhetorical, right?
Re-read the comment chain, maybe you meant to reply to someone else?
No. I'm saying it's you who don't understand what torture means and your "rhetorical questions" are daft and completely unrelated to what anyone in the thread is saying.
Seeing as these all flow down from my original response, I'm pretty sure it's you who doesn't understand the context of the conversation.
Also, the torture in question wasn't the execution method. So again, I suggest you re-read the comment thread.
I'd argue that depending on the victim that 'any form' of discomfort could be considered torture. What should define torture isn't a 'commonly accepted idea of torture' but what the victim considers torture. Some people are quite fine with not having any company for example, but other people if they were socially isolated would consider this a torture, especially for a protracted period of time.