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submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world
 

I literally do blame the Democrats for Trump, and if you don't, you weren't paying attention.

Plenty of us were critiquing Clinton's campaign on those merits and were consistently talked down to in shocker the same way we're being talked down to now. Shocker, she lost. I remember saying a few weeks before the election "We're about to get Brexited." I put my vote down for Clinton, because Trump is fucking insane, and that was clear before he was President. It was clear in the fucking 1980's.

Being able to critique our leaders is supposed to be what is the difference between us and conservative voters. They're the cult who unquestioningly believes all the bullshit that comes out of Trump's mouth and diapers. I find it weird that people think we should be more like them in regards to our leaders like that would be a good thing.

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[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 111 points 9 months ago (4 children)

The fact that one can win the popular vote and still lose is a yuuuuge part of what’s wrong with our fucked up voting system.

[–] trafficnab@lemmy.ca 70 points 9 months ago (3 children)

One single current supreme court justice was appointed by a republican president who won the popular vote.

There's six of them.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 28 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's an astounding fact that speaks to the much deeper problem.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

The SCOTUS, the Senate, and the Electoral College are all relics of a government designed by and fore landed gentry that explicitly did not want a popular government in control.

[–] ggBarabajagal@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

I still tend to look back on GHWB as probably the most moderate, institutional-minded GOP POTUS of my lifetime, yet I see Thomas as probably the most radically right-wing and corrupt Justices of my lifetime.

Thinking about it now makes me want to ask, "how could that have happened?!" But then I think back and remember how it happened.

[–] RealFknNito@lemmy.world 27 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Popular vote should just be the vote.

[–] Klear@sh.itjust.works 8 points 9 months ago

Unfortunately it's just too popular.

[–] acceptable_pumpkin@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

I wish, but once again, the system is set up to give those tiny states way too much power. Overrepresented in the Senate, House, and Electoral College votes.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

We're always one Brooks Brothers Riot away from the election being hijacked by a handful of well-placed political operatives.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

There hasn’t been a single time a republican has won the popular vote since like 1988 except the one time there was a fake war behind em.

[–] BreadstickNinja@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Bush Sr. won the popular vote in 88 and Reagan won the popular vote in both 84 and 80. You're right about 2000 and 2016 but let's not exaggerate.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 points 9 months ago

Must be 88 not 76

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure the war was real, millions of dead Iraqis would probably agree (if they weren't dead).

I think you may mean the justifications for the war were fake.

Because the war was very, very real.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 2 points 9 months ago

Yes that’s what I meant.